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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3135 on: August 04, 2018, 02:27:PM »
I am more and more convinced that Stephen Carpenter was Madeleine McCanns abductor!

His wife needs to be arrested by Scotland Yard and interviewed regarding what she knows about her husband's involvement it the matter, she being at peril of being his co-accused should she not co-operative fully! Otherwise, she can decide to remain a suspect herself, and when the shit hits the fan, she can stand in the dock alongside her husband facing being convicted by a jury of abduction and conspiracy to murder Madeleine McCann!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3136 on: August 04, 2018, 02:29:PM »
I am more and more convinced that Stephen Carpenter was Madeleine McCanns abductor!

His wife needs to be arrested by Scotland Yard and interviewed regarding what she knows about her husband's involvement it the matter, she being at peril of being his co-accused should she not co-operative fully! Otherwise, she can decide to remain a suspect herself, and when the shit hits the fan, she can stand in the dock alongside her husband facing being convicted by a jury of abduction and conspiracy to murder Madeleine McCann!

Either way, involvement by the McCann parents and or other members of their group, or the sinister involvement of one or other of the Carpenter parents, or at least one of them, I still feel that Madeleine McCann is no longer alive!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3137 on: August 04, 2018, 02:34:PM »
I arrive at this conclusion, irrespective of it turning out to be the case that the McCann parents and or some members of their group are involved in Madeleine's demise, or whether or not one or other, or both of the Carpenter parents were involved!

There would be no reason or purpose to believe that Madeleine survived what whoever had got in mind for her!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3138 on: August 04, 2018, 02:43:PM »
I didn't realise that there existed other forums debating the possible involvement of the Carpenter couple in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and that a lot of people have put a lot of time and effort in trying to get to the bottom of this mystery!

But...

Believe me there a lot of good intentioned people out there who are not afraid to speak their minds, irrespective of whether or not they believe or think the parents and members of their group had some sort of input into the event, or that somebody else was involved (such as one or other of the Carpenter couple)...

At the end of the day, it is in the public interest that anybody and everybody be permitted to express an opinion on every feature of this case, if that involves suspecting one or other of the McCann parents, or any member of the tapas nine group, or one or other of the Carpenter couple, since a little three year old girl appears to have vanished off the face of the earth in this ongoing investigation...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3139 on: August 05, 2018, 03:09:PM »
Did anybody see this before? It's an old video of the early investigation. What do people make of the alleged pockmarked man staring at the apartment for two days?  https://youtu.be/lhACS6ck-Dw
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3140 on: August 05, 2018, 04:42:PM »
I've just finished watching the 5 parts of that video showing and at first thought that the " ugly " man could have been the one whose wife is German but the sighting looks too young a man to have been who I'd thought. The " spotty-faced " descripton was probably the first description ever given of an " abductor " and it appeared to be the same character seen carrying a child. It was too much of a coincidence for the child to have looked and also been dressed the same as Madeleine in her nightwear.

What could anyone have really done at that time on seeing a child being carried ? Apart from stopping them and having a quick conversation and look at the same time-------though I know Madeleine hadn't been reported as missing at that juncture, but being nosy sometimes helps at times.

 

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3141 on: August 05, 2018, 04:59:PM »
I've just finished watching the 5 parts of that video showing and at first thought that the " ugly " man could have been the one whose wife is German but the sighting looks too young a man to have been who I'd thought. The " spotty-faced " descripton was probably the first description ever given of an " abductor " and it appeared to be the same character seen carrying a child. It was too much of a coincidence for the child to have looked and also been dressed the same as Madeleine in her nightwear.

What could anyone have really done at that time on seeing a child being carried ? Apart from stopping them and having a quick conversation and look at the same time-------though I know Madeleine hadn't been reported as missing at that juncture, but being nosy sometimes helps at times.

 
I just wonder what's happened to this man. Someone must know. It took me back to the American psychic Carla Brown. https://youtu.be/8wKt8r35AdI

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3142 on: August 05, 2018, 06:00:PM »
I just wonder what's happened to this man. Someone must know. It took me back to the American psychic Carla Brown. https://youtu.be/8wKt8r35AdI






Do you go along with that sort of stuff Steve ?

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3143 on: August 05, 2018, 07:08:PM »
Did anybody see this before? It's an old video of the early investigation. What do people make of the alleged pockmarked man staring at the apartment for two days?  https://youtu.be/lhACS6ck-Dw

This sighting is an interesting one, since it happened on the 1st May 2007...

The same day which has the lobster creche register faults, involving Madeleine McCann, and in particular the three and a half year old Carpenter child who was booked in 10 minutes behind 'Madeleine' yet had her name crossed out for one reason, or another, without any explanation from either of the Carpenter parents, or the creche nannies! What I believe it signifies is that one or other of the Carpenters, or both were watching and following the McCann Parents and their three siblings! I do not know what Stephen John Carpenter looked like on the 1st May 2007, maybe he had a pock marked face, maybe he was the man you are referring to...

I am also mindful of an incident involving when the children were practicing tennis, and one of the tapas group mentioned that a parent of one of the children who was taking photographs of the practice session and he said with things being as they are these days, that he felt like a bit of a pervert taking photographs!

This to me raises a red flag!

Here was somebody who obviously captured Madeleine McCann in one or more of the photographs he took!

My query would be, who the parent was?

Was it Stephen Carpenter, for example?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3144 on: August 05, 2018, 07:49:PM »





Do you go along with that sort of stuff Steve ?
No not really, but I suppose it is some kind of ghoulish entertainment. I'm sorry if it's hurting the McCanns.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3145 on: August 05, 2018, 07:58:PM »
This sighting is an interesting one, since it happened on the 1st May 2007...

The same day which has the lobster creche register faults, involving Madeleine McCann, and in particular the three and a half year old Carpenter child who was booked in 10 minutes behind 'Madeleine' yet had her name crossed out for one reason, or another, without any explanation from either of the Carpenter parents, or the creche nannies! What I believe it signifies is that one or other of the Carpenters, or both were watching and following the McCann Parents and their three siblings! I do not know what Stephen John Carpenter looked like on the 1st May 2007, maybe he had a pick marked face, maybe he was the man you are referring to...

I am also mindful of an incident involving when the children were practicing tennis, and one of the tapas group mentioned that a parent of one of the children who was taking photographs of the practice session and he said with things being as they are these days, that he felt like a bit of a pervert taking photographs!

This to me raises a red flag!

Here was somebody who obviously captured Madeleine McCann in one or more of the photographs he took!

My query would be, who the parent was?

Was it Stephen Carpenter, for example?
This is such a frustrating case. Many of us were brought up with the old adage "trust me I'm a doctor", so one scenario we go along with all the Tapas 7, irrespective of how foolish they all were leaving their dozen or so children unattended that night.

If we consider the man with the pockmarked face one would have thought he was an outsider (Eastern European?), who seized his window of opportunity and abducted her for his own ends. This is why I turned to the American psychic video again to consider where the body might be.

The third alternative is Robert Murat, who was jealous of the nuclear family and wished to cause the McCanns pain. He killed Maddie in the apartment and deposited her somewhere in the vicinity which has still not been searched. Him being a local he would know the area like the back of his hand.

The mystery is why has the body still not been found?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3146 on: August 05, 2018, 10:52:PM »
This is such a frustrating case. Many of us were brought up with the old adage "trust me I'm a doctor", so one scenario we go along with all the Tapas 7, irrespective of how foolish they all were leaving their dozen or so children unattended that night.

If we consider the man with the pockmarked face one would have thought he was an outsider (Eastern European?), who seized his window of opportunity and abducted her for his own ends. This is why I turned to the American psychic video again to consider where the body might be.

The third alternative is Robert Murat, who was jealous of the nuclear family and wished to cause the McCanns pain. He killed Maddie in the apartment an deposited her somewhere in the vicinity which has still not been searched Him being a local he would know the area like the back of his hand.

The mystery is why has the body still not been found?

I bet a pound to a penny the pockmarked bloke was none other than Stephen Carpenter. He was on the McCanns trail for sure from that Tuesday (1st May 2007) afternoon, I believe he was the parent taking photographs of the children during tennis practice, and I believe that Stephen Carpenter probably took Madeleine from her bed in apartment 5A, soon after Gerry McCann made his 9.05pm check! What I envisage happened was that the Carpenters were on routine watch at the tapas restaurant from 7pm, onwards - monitoring the behaviour and routine of the McCann parents from the vantage point of their restaurant table which had been booked for 7pm. What I also believe transpired was that the Carpenters had been at the tapas restaurant earlier in the evening with their two children for high tea, and that they may have still had their kids with them at 7pm, but had intended to take them back to their apartment after they had finished their pre-booked 7pm evening meal (which accounts for the table only originally being booked for two persons, not 2 + 2). At around 8pm with their meal finished, Stephen Carpenter takes their two children back to their apartment (FP02), whilst his wife (the woman dressed up to the eyeballs in a plum purple dress remains standing on the pavement waiting for one of two things to happen. (1) for the return of her husband, and (2) in the meantime, she is keeping a watchful eye on the McCann Apartment to see which door the parents leave it, for example, (a) the poolside patio door, or (b) the roadside door?

It is extremely important to note that the sighting of this woman in a plum purple outfit, was seen firstly by Jenny Murat at about 8pm, and again at about 8.30pm by Jez Wilkins! This to me fits in snugly with the McCanns being under surveillance (if you can call it that), and that the woman in purple was nowhere to be seen (to say good evening to) when the McCann parents left their apartment at around 8.30pm via the roadside door which Gerry McCann in all fairness to him probably locked that door behind him once both he and Kate left (prior to leaving their apartment the McCanns had left the sliding patio door on the poolside of the building unlocked). It may well have been the case, that the woman in the plum purple outfit saw one or other of the McCann parents at the patio door and that see may have wrongly assumed that the parents were leaving their apartment by that route, hence why when a minute or two later when the McCanns did in fact leave their apartment, they both did so by the roadside door, and by the time they had walked across the carpark, and then down and along, and round the corner heading in the direction of the Ocean club reception, the woman in the plum purple outfit had already walked off - probably en route back to the Carpenter Apartment (FP02) to update her husband accomplice!

As she was doing this the McCanns arrived at the tapas restaurant at 8.30pm, sharp!

We know from Stephen Carpenters witness statement, that he said that the McCann's and their friends were already present when he, his wife and children arrived at the tapas restaurant! But, this cannot possibly be true because the Carpenters were booked in for evening meal at 7ppm, and the McCanns did not arrive until 8.30pm! Some of the other group did not arrive at their table until 9.00pm, so as we can see Carpenter is using a narrative that is supposed to take him out of the equation! But his lies (I might add) only serve to attach him to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann...

Tanner man may well have been Stephen Carpenter, carrying off Madeleine in his arms, walking briskly across the road junction in the general direction of his apartment! However, in view of him being spotted, he decided to take Madeleine elsewhere, just in case Jane Tanner had got a good look at him! I am convinced that his wife aided and abetted him when he took Madeleine! When he picked up Madeleine she began to stir, and Carpenter tried to pacify her by calling out her name, twice, in quick succession, 'MADELEINE, MADELEINE', when he probably handed out the child through the bedroom window! This was why Carpenters wife, says she remembers those key words, 'MADELEINE, MADELEINE', she will never forget those words that were spoken to Madeleine McCann..

Madeleines body was almost certainly taken to the derelict building opposite St Vincent's church, because if Carpenter had been 'Tannerman' he might have thought he had been seen, and so perhaps he wandered around and took footpaths which afforded him cover since these short cut footpaths were heavily populated with bushes, shrubs and trees and were poorly lit! I think there is a good chance that 'Tannerman' and the man the Smith contingent who saw a man carrying a child in his arms, may well be the same Person! In the case of the Smith sighting, the man was walking downhill in the general direction of the beach / church / derelict building! In the rear garden of this derelict building towards the left back corner, is a hollow with a shallow grave! I believe e this is the most likeliest of places where Madeleine McCanns remains were concealed. Inside the derelict building itself, there was a single bed mattress, and clothing contained in plastic bags, which I took photographs of and upon my return to the UK I sent to the Portuguese police asking them to go there and seize the articles of clothing and dig up the grave I have mentioned! As far as I know, nobody has searched either the derelict building or its gardens, and in particular the shallow grave which is overshadowed by a series of tall reeds...

It was inside one of the rooms situated at the front of the building (on the church side) that I took the 'Ghost of MADDIE' photograph, which for some reason presented itself in a gap that existed between the edge of the single bed mattress and the wall! I cannot explain how that image ended up appearing in that particular photograph, it wasn't something that I could see with my own two eyes, it just showed up when I downloaded all the images I had taken when I returned home! Some people say they can't see anything, but I can and it's quite an astonishing image which appears to be of a little girl squeezed into that tight floor space between the mattress and the wall! I believe in my mind it provides a psychic clue as to what happened to Madeleine McCann after her body had been taken!

The little girl in the image ('The Ghost of MADDIE') tells me that Madeleine was taken to this derelict building, she died there (I think), at the hands of her abductor, and her body was buried in a shallow grave at the back left hand corner of the rear garden in a hollow!

Until someone goes there and digs up this shallow grave I shall continue to believe that that is the location where her body was concealed, buried in that shallow grave...

'The GHOST of MADDIE'..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3147 on: August 06, 2018, 10:02:AM »

'The derelict Building'
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3148 on: August 06, 2018, 10:04:AM »
'View from inside Derelict Building of Church across Street'..
'The GHOST of MADDIE' photograph was taken in this room, with its window facing across the street to St Vincent's church, where the McCann parents sought refuge from the media at night time!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3149 on: August 06, 2018, 10:17:AM »
This is the Shallow Grave where i believe Madeleines abductor buried her remains'!
I found a metal bar with a pointed edge next to / alongside what appears to be a shallow grave in a hollow surrounded by reeds at the left hand corner of the rear garden! This informs me that someone must have been very determined to dig sufficiently enough to conceal a child's body, and that when digging the grave the person found it difficult because of rocks beneath the surface! The metal bar I found was similar to the ones you find in roadworks / construction sites! I thought this was interesting because there was said to be several road workings in the area around the time of Madeleine's disappearence!
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