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Offline mike tesko

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3030 on: August 01, 2018, 04:20:PM »
We need to find out all we can about this Carpenter person who was at the Lobster creche soon after Madeleine arrived there, because for one reason or another, this subject did not get signed out of the creche that afternoon, along with Madeleine!!!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3031 on: August 01, 2018, 04:24:PM »
We need to find out all we can about this Carpenter person who was at the Lobster creche soon after Madeleine arrived there, because for one reason or another, this subject did not get signed out of the creche that afternoon, along with Madeleine!!!

I have checked the other lobster creche records that are available which coincide with the dates before and after the 1st May 2007, looking for evidence of the Carpenter child being deposited or collected, but I can't seem to find any reference other than on that particular afternoon, whereas most of the other children have multiple entries!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3032 on: August 01, 2018, 04:48:PM »
It just looks like some Carpenter person signed out. I suppose conspiracy theorists might claim the first word on the third column might look as if somebody had started to write "Madeleine" then crossed it out..

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3033 on: August 01, 2018, 06:15:PM »
I have checked the other lobster creche records that are available which coincide with the dates before and after the 1st May 2007, looking for evidence of the Carpenter child being deposited or collected, but I can't seem to find any reference other than on that particular afternoon, whereas most of the other children have multiple entries!

A CARPENTER PERSON SIGNED IN - but did not sign out...

1st Column - name of Child2nd Column - Apartment no.3rd Column - Where parent / guardian can be contacted4th Column - time Child deposited at creche5th Column - Signature of person depositing Child6th Column - time Child is collected from creche7th Column - Signature of Person collecting Child
Nobody collected Madeleine McCann from the lobster creche on the afternoon of Tuesday 1st May 2007, and no-one signed her out!

This also applies to the Carpenter Child!

With Madeleine and the Carpenter child at the creche that afternoon, there were a total of 8 children, but only six (6) kids took part in the sailing club activity down at the beach ( 3 kids in two dungy's)! Fiona Payne stayed that Kate Healey asked her if she had seen Madeleine down at the beach at the sailing club activity event, and Fiona states that she told Kate, 'no'...

The McFlies have moved the sailing club activity from Tuesday 1st May 2007, to Thursday afternoon on the 3rd May 2007, to try to make it appear that Madeleine was still alive two days after the date she was probably abducted and or killed, or had died...

Sailing Club Activity was Tuesday afternoon, not Thursday Afternoon!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3034 on: August 01, 2018, 06:41:PM »
If Madeleine didn't die at the creche that afternoon, everything points to somebody taking her out of the creche on the pretence of taking her to the sailing Club Activity down on the beach that Tuesday afternoon, but whoever took her from the creche did not take her there, but abducted her! It is known that Madeleine McCann did not attend the sailing club activity on the beach that afternoon, because Kate's best friend Fiona Payne told Kate that Madeleine wasn't at the beach with the other kids at the time of the sailing club activity!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3035 on: August 01, 2018, 06:42:PM »
If Madeleine didn't die at the creche that afternoon, everything points to somebody taking her out of the creche on the pretence of taking her to the sailing Club Activity down on the beach that Tuesday afternoon, but whoever took her from the creche did not take her there, but abducted her! It is known that Madeleine McCann did not attend the sailing club activity on the beach that afternoon, because Kate's best friend Fiona Payne told Kate that Madeleine wasn't at the beach with the other kids at the time of the sailing club activity!

Who collected Madeleine McCann?
Afternoon, Tuesday, 1st May 2007?
Who handed Madeleine over?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3036 on: August 01, 2018, 06:58:PM »
Well it was someone who obviously knew they were leaving for the UK next day so had to act quickly.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3037 on: August 01, 2018, 07:25:PM »
Well it was someone who obviously knew they were leaving for the UK next day so had to act quickly.

The Carpenters gave some useful information to the police, concerning what someone was saying whilst they were crossing the road outside the reception at between 9.15am and 9.30am, a voice was overheard calling out the name, 'Madeleine, Madeleine', which occurred after Gerry McCanns 9.05pm check, and Russel O'Brien and Matt Oldfields 9.30pm check! I find this a staggering piece of evidence, since it suggests that Madeleine might still have been alive by that stage! But rather more importantly, someone who knew Madeleine, and who Madeleine herself must also have known, was calling out Madeleine's name, twice!

Setting aside, all other scenarios for the time being, and now basing a new theorey on the strength of this previously unheard about testimony, we have someone who knew Madeleine talking to her at a pivotal moment that Thursday evening, between 9.15pm and 9.30pm...

It's possible, that this recognition of the name of Madeleine, and Madeleine being called out, coincided with the 9.30pm check made by Russell O'Brien and Matt Oldfield! This (if true) makes one or other, or both prime suspects involved in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann from the apartment (5A) that Thursday Evening!

'Madeleine, Madeleine'...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3038 on: August 01, 2018, 07:32:PM »
Here's the relevant extract from Stephen Carpenters witness statement:-

WOW !!!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3039 on: August 01, 2018, 07:35:PM »
Russel O'Brien, Mathew Oldfield, and or David Payne...
'Madeleine, Madeleine'..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3040 on: August 01, 2018, 07:44:PM »
If Stephen Carpenters wife did overhear Madeleine's name being repeated as they left the tapas restaurant between 9.15pm and 9.30pm, it's odds on that somebody who knew Madeleine was calling out her name to try to make her leave the apartment, either by the patio door on the poolside of the apartment, or by the door on the roadside of the apartment! It is very disturbing that nobody has mentioned the carpenter couple and their children at the tapas bar that evening, and that no-one saw them leaving, and no-one saw them in the street crossing over the road below the McCann Apartment! Furthermore, they didn't see anyone else in the street on their way to their apartment which was located not far from Robert Murat's mother's villa - no Gerry McCann and Jez, no Jane Tanner, and no Russel O'BRIEN, or Mathew OLDFIELD?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3041 on: August 01, 2018, 07:55:PM »
'TANNER MAN' - had long since walked across the top of the road, as seen by Jane Tanner carrying a child in his arms, by the time the Carpenter Couple and children crossed the road close to apartment 5A, and the fact that Carpenters wife had heard someone call out and repeat the name 'Madeleine, Madeleine'suggests that the man that Jane Tanner says she had seen crossing the top of the road carrying a child, could not have been Madeleine, because Madeleine was still in the vicinity of apartment 5A when the Carpenter couple with their two kids left the tapas restaurant and crossed the street on their way back to their apartment!

Is it just a coincidence that the man Jane Tanner had seen was walking toward the general direction of where Robert Murat and the Carpenters were in residence?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3042 on: August 01, 2018, 08:08:PM »
'TANNER MAN' - had long since walked across the top of the road, as seen by Jane Tanner carrying a child in his arms, by the time the Carpenter Couple and children crossed the road close to apartment 5A, and the fact that Carpenters wife had heard someone call out and repeat the name 'Madeleine, Madeleine'suggests that the man that Jane Tanner says she had seen crossing the top of the road carrying a child, could not have been Madeleine, because Madeleine was still in the vicinity of apartment 5A when the Carpenter couple with their two kids left the tapas restaurant and crossed the street on their way back to their apartment!

Is it just a coincidence that the man Jane Tanner had seen was walking toward the general direction of where Robert Murat and the Carpenters were in residence?

This moves me on, to a line of enquiry which the Portuguese police tried to pursue, involving a mystery couple who were believed to have entered apartment 5A on the previous evening (Wednesday 2nd May 2007) in response to Madeleine having been crying non stop for over an hour, when her parents were absent, out galavanting, wining and dining?

Are the Carpenters the couple who entered apartment 5A on the evening before the 3rd May2007, and of which Madeleine had spoken about to Kate on the following morning?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3043 on: August 01, 2018, 08:11:PM »
I find it extremely odd, that nobody mentions the Carpenter couple and their kids at the tapas bar, at all on any day or night, particularly on the night Madeleine is supposed to have gone missing?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3044 on: August 01, 2018, 08:33:PM »
I find it extremely odd, that nobody mentions the Carpenter couple and their kids at the tapas bar, at all on any day or night, particularly on the night Madeleine is supposed to have gone missing?

Here's his statement - please read it's contents very carefully, because if the parents had nothing to do with Madeleine's disappearance then I believe we may be on the verge of a significant break through!
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