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Offline mike tesko

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3030 on: August 01, 2018, 07:27:AM »
On two separate occasions something which Kate McCann said gives the game away - for example, upon returning to the restaurant around 10 o'clock on the evening of Thursday 3rd of May 2007, Kate is rumoured to have said (a) 'they have taken her, they have taken her, Madeleine is gone', and weeks later in a tv interview, she said the following, (b) 'that when the woman had Madeleine'..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3031 on: August 01, 2018, 07:33:AM »
On two separate occasions something which Kate McCann said gives the game away - for example, upon returning to the restaurant around 10 o'clock on the evening of Thursday 3rd of May 2007, Kate is rumoured to have said (a) 'they have taken her, they have taken her, Madeleine is gone', and weeks later in a tv interview, she said the following, (b) 'that when the woman had Madeleine'..

Who were 'THEY' and which 'WOMAN' had taken Madeleine?

How was it possible, for Kate McCann to know 'THEY' had taken Madeleine so soon after supposedly discovering Madeleine missing from apartment 5A only minutes beforehand based on the narrative recited in the national and international media? Weeks later, Kate let it slip, that a 'WOMAN' had taken Madeleine..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3032 on: August 01, 2018, 07:40:AM »
Who were 'THEY' and which 'WOMAN' had taken Madeleine?

How was it possible, for Kate McCann to know 'THEY' had taken Madeleine so soon after supposedly discovering Madeleine missing from apartment 5A only minutes beforehand based on the narrative recited in the national and international media? Weeks later, Kate let it slip, that a 'WOMAN' had taken Madeleine..

Why had there been a change in emphasis, between the alleged involvement of 'THEY' into the 'WOMAN' within a matter of weeks? What did Kate McCann really know on the night Madeleine was reported to be missing? Furthermore, how could she know that a 'WOMAN' had taken her weeks afterwards?

She knew these things because something very sinister had occurred at the lobster creche on the Tuesday (1st May 2007) afternoon when someone walked off with Madeleine from the creche, on the pretence that they were taking Madeleine and the Carpenter child down to the beach to join the other six (6) children at the sailing club activity...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3033 on: August 01, 2018, 08:01:AM »
The reason why on the evening of Thursday the 3rd May 2007 that when Kate returned to the tapas restaurant to break the news that (a) 'they have taken her, they have taken her, Madeleine is gone' was because by that stage the McCanns knew by then that a man and a woman had been responsible for taking Madeleine from the lobster creche two days earlier (the two people concerned must have been the people linked to the Carpenter child who got booked into the lobster creche 10 minutes after Madeleine on that Tuesday afternoon, booked in by a man, but collected by a woman...

It's possible that when the Carpenter child got brought to the creche that the child was accompanied by a man and a woman...

For some reason, these two people were given the responsibility of taking the Carpenter child and Madeleine McCann down to the beach with a view of them joining the other six (6) children in that afternoons activity, but they never arrived there! The man and woman abducted Madeleine...

This was what the McCanns and their friends had known about from after the close of the lobster creche by 5.30pm on the afternoon of Tuesday 1st May 2007...

I believe that it was Fiona Payne who makes mention of the fact that Kate had asked her if she had seen Madeleine down on the beach at the sailing club activity, and Fiona Payne had said 'no' she hadn't...

By this stage, the McFlies and the rest of the group were referring to the sailing club activity down on the beach taking place on the Thursday afternoon (3rd May 2007), but it had taken place two days previously - Fiona Payne had not seen Madeleine McCann at that activity! This fits in with Madeleine vanishing at some point after 14.30hrs on the afternoon of Tuesday the 1st May when Gerry McCann deposited Madeleine at the lobster creche, and the commencement of the sailing boat activity down on the beach shortly afterwards. The alarm does not appear to have been raised until either Kate had bumped into her friend Fiona Payne during the middle of the afternoon and they spoke about the children enjoying the sailing club activity down on the beach, but that Madeleine wasn't there with the other children, or later on at the close of the lobster creche business at 5.30pm, when parents or guardians collected their children, or the creche nannies took children back to their parents or guardians!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3034 on: August 01, 2018, 08:07:AM »
The reason why on the evening of Thursday the 3rd May 2007 that when Kate returned to the tapas restaurant to break the news that (a) 'they have taken her, they have taken her, Madeleine is gone' was because by that stage the McCanns knew by then that a man and a woman had been responsible for taking Madeleine from the lobster creche two days earlier (the two people concerned must have been the people linked to the Carpenter child who got booked into the lobster creche 10 minutes after Madeleine on that Tuesday afternoon, booked in by a man, but collected by a woman...

It's possible that when the Carpenter child got brought to the creche that the child was accompanied by a man and a woman...

For some reason, these two people were given the responsibility of taking the Carpenter child and Madeleine McCann down to the beach with a view of them joining the other six (6) children in that afternoons activity, but they never arrived there! The man and woman abducted Madeleine...

This was what the McCanns and their friends had known about from after the close of the lobster creche by 5.30pm on the afternoon of Tuesday 1st May 2007...

I believe that it was Fiona Payne who makes mention of the fact that Kate had asked her if she had seen Madeleine down on the beach at the sailing club activity, and Fiona Payne had said 'no' she hadn't...

By this stage, the McFlies and the rest of the group were referring to the sailing club activity down on the beach taking place on the Thursday afternoon (3rd May 2007), but it had taken place two days previously - Fiona Payne had not seen Madeleine McCann at that activity! This fits in with Madeleine vanishing at some point after 14.30hrs on the afternoon of Tuesday the 1st May when Gerry McCann deposited Madeleine at the lobster creche, and the commencement of the sailing boat activity down on the beach shortly afterwards. The alarm does not appear to have been raised until either Kate had bumped into her friend Fiona Payne during the middle of the afternoon and they spoke about the children enjoying the sailing club activity down on the beach, but that Madeleine wasn't there with the other children, or later on at the close of the lobster creche business at 5.30pm, when parents or guardians collected their children, or the creche nannies took children back to their parents or guardians!

What we do know, is that in the early stages of the investigation that the Portuguese police were hunting a man and a woman who were travelling around Portugal in a Camper van, and that they could have been staying on a nearby gipsy camp site!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3036 on: August 01, 2018, 04:03:PM »
What we do know, is that in the early stages of the investigation that the Portuguese police were hunting a man and a woman who were travelling around Portugal in a Camper van, and that they could have been staying on a nearby gipsy camp site!

Were the Carpenter contingent linked with the lobster creche incident on the afternoon of Tuesday 1st May 2007?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3037 on: August 01, 2018, 04:08:PM »
I would like to see a clear copy of the damning lobster creche register for Tuesday afternoon, 1st May 2007, to see what exactly was recorded when the Carpenter child was booked in (14.40hrs)10 minutes after Madeleine (14.30hrs) was booked in:-

Can anyone decipher what is recorded in 'that' entry before somebody drew a line through it?

Does it read - 'Terry', or 'Jenny' Carpenter 'F POL'?

Does 'F POL' stand for Faro Police?


If it was the police, what were they doing at the Lobster creche, 10 minutes after Gerry McCann deposited Madeleine there?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3038 on: August 01, 2018, 04:20:PM »
We need to find out all we can about this Carpenter person who was at the Lobster creche soon after Madeleine arrived there, because for one reason or another, this subject did not get signed out of the creche that afternoon, along with Madeleine!!!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3039 on: August 01, 2018, 04:24:PM »
We need to find out all we can about this Carpenter person who was at the Lobster creche soon after Madeleine arrived there, because for one reason or another, this subject did not get signed out of the creche that afternoon, along with Madeleine!!!

I have checked the other lobster creche records that are available which coincide with the dates before and after the 1st May 2007, looking for evidence of the Carpenter child being deposited or collected, but I can't seem to find any reference other than on that particular afternoon, whereas most of the other children have multiple entries!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3040 on: August 01, 2018, 04:48:PM »
It just looks like some Carpenter person signed out. I suppose conspiracy theorists might claim the first word on the third column might look as if somebody had started to write "Madeleine" then crossed it out..

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3041 on: August 01, 2018, 06:15:PM »
I have checked the other lobster creche records that are available which coincide with the dates before and after the 1st May 2007, looking for evidence of the Carpenter child being deposited or collected, but I can't seem to find any reference other than on that particular afternoon, whereas most of the other children have multiple entries!

A CARPENTER PERSON SIGNED IN - but did not sign out...

1st Column - name of Child2nd Column - Apartment no.3rd Column - Where parent / guardian can be contacted4th Column - time Child deposited at creche5th Column - Signature of person depositing Child6th Column - time Child is collected from creche7th Column - Signature of Person collecting Child
Nobody collected Madeleine McCann from the lobster creche on the afternoon of Tuesday 1st May 2007, and no-one signed her out!

This also applies to the Carpenter Child!

With Madeleine and the Carpenter child at the creche that afternoon, there were a total of 8 children, but only six (6) kids took part in the sailing club activity down at the beach ( 3 kids in two dungy's)! Fiona Payne stayed that Kate Healey asked her if she had seen Madeleine down at the beach at the sailing club activity event, and Fiona states that she told Kate, 'no'...

The McFlies have moved the sailing club activity from Tuesday 1st May 2007, to Thursday afternoon on the 3rd May 2007, to try to make it appear that Madeleine was still alive two days after the date she was probably abducted and or killed, or had died...

Sailing Club Activity was Tuesday afternoon, not Thursday Afternoon!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3042 on: August 01, 2018, 06:41:PM »
If Madeleine didn't die at the creche that afternoon, everything points to somebody taking her out of the creche on the pretence of taking her to the sailing Club Activity down on the beach that Tuesday afternoon, but whoever took her from the creche did not take her there, but abducted her! It is known that Madeleine McCann did not attend the sailing club activity on the beach that afternoon, because Kate's best friend Fiona Payne told Kate that Madeleine wasn't at the beach with the other kids at the time of the sailing club activity!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3043 on: August 01, 2018, 06:42:PM »
If Madeleine didn't die at the creche that afternoon, everything points to somebody taking her out of the creche on the pretence of taking her to the sailing Club Activity down on the beach that Tuesday afternoon, but whoever took her from the creche did not take her there, but abducted her! It is known that Madeleine McCann did not attend the sailing club activity on the beach that afternoon, because Kate's best friend Fiona Payne told Kate that Madeleine wasn't at the beach with the other kids at the time of the sailing club activity!

Who collected Madeleine McCann?
Afternoon, Tuesday, 1st May 2007?
Who handed Madeleine over?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3044 on: August 01, 2018, 06:58:PM »
Well it was someone who obviously knew they were leaving for the UK next day so had to act quickly.