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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2985 on: July 29, 2018, 09:45:PM »
Steve_uk, please watch the statement analysts review of the McCann parents interviews, I know it is a long laborious task, but this guy talks a lot of sense, he hits the nail on the head! Madeleine did not die inside apartment 5a, she died long before the evening of Thursday 3rd May 2007! The expert in this particular field of expertise goes so far as to say that both parents make what is known as an 'embedded Confession' in this particular interview he analyses. Madeleine is dead, her death was probably an accident, but there were things that would have come to light had her death been reported through the proper channels that would have got the McCanns and some of their friends into serious trouble! Look at the lobster creche register entries for the afternoon Tuesday 1st May 2007, Madeleine was never booked out by a nanny and nobody collected Madeleine officially from the creche that afternoon!

I believe that Madeleine died at the creche on that Tuesday afternoon...

It is not for me to have to explain how or why the cadaver and blood hound dogs reacted like they did in Apartment 5a...

She is dead, the McCann parents know it, and so do some of their friends, particularly O'Brien and Tanner!
Mike I've seen those videos before but as you know yourself law enforcement or those acting for them can get it wrong. I don't believe there is one standard way of reacting after a tragedy as some of the Jeremy supporters constantly remind us, and whether the McCanns gave themselves away subliminally is open to interpretation.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2986 on: July 29, 2018, 09:45:PM »
I believe that Madeleines body was never kept in apartment 5a at all after the accident had occurred at the lobster creche on the afternoon of Tuesday 1st May 2007. I think her body was hidden at the lobster creche in the room above the Ocean reception, and that on the evening of Thursday 3rd May 2007 that when Russell O'Brien supposedly went down to the main reception to report that Madeleine was missing supposedly at about 10.30pm, that he collected Madeleine's body from the lobster creche premises and that he made his way down towards the church and the derelict building, and that was when the Smith Contingent saw him carrying Madeleine's body in his arms! I think the Smiths could easily have got the timing of that sighting slightly wrong, either that or Russell O'Brien went down to the main reception much earlier than he said he had done, for example, he went there immediately upon being relieved by Jane Tanner at about 9.50pm from babysitting Ella...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2987 on: July 29, 2018, 09:54:PM »
Mike I've seen those videos before but as you know yourself law enforcement or those acting for them can get it wrong. I don't believe there is one standard way of reacting after a tragedy as some of the Jeremy supporters constantly remind us, and whether the McCanns gave themselves away subliminally is open to interpretation.

I have personally met hundreds of people whilst serving sentences in prisons throughout the UK in-between 1974 and 1995. I have been incarcerated alongside murderers, terrorists, bank robbers, burglars and con men throughout this period! If you think that somebody like the McCanns can pull the wool over my eyes with the absolute garbage they keep talking about, then you would be sadly mistaken! Madeleine McCann is dead, she is never coming back alive! It's a circus the way the police are not treating them as suspects, a good 80% of the world's population suspect the parents of being involved in Madeleine's reported disappearance, I am one of those people! They got rid of her body, there is no doubt at all about it!

I don't think the statement analyst was making anything up in the way he came to his conclusions!

Why would he make something like that up?

He sounded genuine to me, and authentic!

There is no evidence to support the claim that anything he said is not true, on the contrary everything he has said has a clear ring of truth about it!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2988 on: July 29, 2018, 10:02:PM »
Samples taken from the apartment (5A) and the hire vehicle (Renault scenic) are still being held in Lisbon, which could still yeild conclusive proof that Madeleine McCanns remains, or items which had been contaminated with Madeleine's remains, were concealed in the apartment and in the Renault motor vehicle - Scotland Yard police have sent several requests to the Portuguese police for all these samples to be released to them, but to date the Portuguese are holding back because they fear that their UK counterparts will interfere with the results in the same way they did with the last lot...

The Portuguese police are holding onto the outstanding samples, with a view to getting them analysed elsewhere in the World! They are very interested in a new DNA technique known as...

Phonetone DNA Profiling...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2989 on: July 29, 2018, 10:08:PM »
It is also understood that the Portuguese police are interested in a form of DNA which is believed to be able to determine whether or not at the time a DNA sample is deposited, whether or not the donor was still alive, or deceased, at the point of cross contamination?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2990 on: July 29, 2018, 10:15:PM »
Right next door to the derelict building is a pharmacy shop, and just further up the car hire shop through which the McCanns hired the Renault scenic motor vehicle..

The formal address of the derelict building which as far as I am concerned was of great significance during the first few weeks post the tragedy, is shown at the top of the image...

No.5 Av dos Pescadores, Praia de Luz...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2991 on: July 29, 2018, 10:19:PM »
I have personally met hundreds of people whilst serving sentences in prisons throughout the UK in-between 1974 and 1995. I have been incarcerated alongside murderers, terrorists, bank robbers, burglars and con men throughout this period! If you think that somebody like the McCanns can pull the wool over my eyes with the absolute garbage they keep talking about, then you would be sadly mistaken! Madeleine McCann is dead, she is never coming back alive! It's a circus the way the police are not treating them as suspects, a good 80% of the world's population suspect the parents of being involved in Madeleine's reported disappearance, I am one of those people! They got rid of her body, there is no doubt at all about it!

I don't think the statement analyst was making anything up in the way he came to his conclusions!

Why would he make something like that up?

He sounded genuine to me, and authentic!

There is no evidence to support the claim that anything he said is not true, on the contrary everything he has said has a clear ring of truth about it!
But you can't convict anyone on statement analysis. I just think they know they were basically wrong in leaving their children unsupervised and they're trying to overcompensate for the benefit of the twins as they grow older.

Critics argue that the technique encourages investigators to prejudge a suspect as deceptive and affirm a presumption of guilt before the interrogation process has even begun. Statement analysis in general has been criticized as "theoretically vague" with little or no empirical evidence in its favor, and SCAN in particular has been characterized as "junk science"[1] with the Skeptic's Dictionary and Skeptical Inquirer magazine[12] classifying it as a form of pseudoscience.[2]

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2992 on: July 29, 2018, 10:54:PM »
But you can't convict anyone on statement analysis. I just think they know they were basically wrong in leaving their children unsupervised and they're trying to overcompensate for the benefit of the twins as they grow older.

Critics argue that the technique encourages investigators to prejudge a suspect as deceptive and affirm a presumption of guilt before the interrogation process has even begun. Statement analysis in general has been criticized as "theoretically vague" with little or no empirical evidence in its favor, and SCAN in particular has been characterized as "junk science"[1] with the Skeptic's Dictionary and Skeptical Inquirer magazine[12] classifying it as a form of pseudoscience.[2]

It seems a clear case to me from observing the McCann Parents throughout this so called ordeal that they are going through that they are faking their reactions, it doesn't come across as genuine! I don't believe that Madeleine was alive after going to the lobster creche that Tuesday afternoon (1st May 2007), nobody handed her back to anyone, and nobody collected Madeleine from the creche that afternoon! Rather more astonishingly Madeleine was booked back into the lobster creche on the following morning, and back out again! This was repeated in the afternoon session of Wednesday 2nd May 2007, booked in and out! Finally according to the dodgy creche register Madeleine was booked into the lobster creche again on the Thursday morning (3rd May 2007) and back out again ! Also, in the afternoon session the creche log has Madeleine booked in there from 14.30hrs, and the fact that Kate McCann collected Madeleine from there at 17.30hrs, against her signature - what I find truly remarkable is that in her book 'Madeleine'', Kate states that upon returning to the tapas area from her run that afternoon at 5.30pm, she found Gerry and their three siblings had already started eating high tea, but this cannot possibly be true if Kate had collected Madeleine from lobster creche at 17.30hrs! Furthermore, her run along the beach would have brought her past the lobster creche where Madeleine was supposedly being looked after by the creche nanny CAT-fem. What raises a red flag for me here, is that Kate also collected the twins Amelie and Sean from the Jellyfish creche at 17.25hrs, against her signature, so how could all three siblings had already started eating high tea as she claims in her published book by the time she arrived there from her afternoon run at 5.30pm?

There is something dramatically wrong here, Kate wouldn't run past the lobster creche which she would have pass on her way to the tapas restaurant to meet up with Gerry, and collect the twins from the jellyfish creche at 17.25hrs, and then with the two kids in tow, dash all the way back down the hill to the lobster creche situated above the main Ocean Club reception to collect Madeleine and sign her out at 17.30hrs, and at one and the same time, as if by magic also be arriving back up the hill to find Gerry and their three siblings had already started eating their high tea?

Surely, you don't believe a word of what they say happened, and what must have happened on that occasion?

Madeleine wasn't even still alive by that stage, let alone that she was already eating her high tea when Kate returned to the tapas restaurant at 5.30pm from her run, or and Kate had run past the lobster creche to go and get Amelie and Sean from Jellyfish creche at 17.25hrs, and dashing all the way back down hill all the way to the lobster creche above the main Ocean club reception by 17.30hrs, and then somehow be instantaneously back up the hill to find that the three children she had collected were already there with Gerry already eating their high teas?

Either, Kate collected Amelie and Sean at 17.25hrs, and then took both of them all the way down hill to the lobster creche above the main Ocean club reception in time to collect and sign for Madeleine at 17.30hrs, or she didn't?

When she returned from her run that afternoon, she either arrived at the tapas restaurant at 5.30pm to find that Gerry, Amelie, Sean and Madeleine had already started eating high tea at that stage, or they hadn't?

Seems somewhat obvious to me that Kate couldn't have collected and signed for the collection of two kids from one creche, at 17.25hrs, and Madeleine from the other creche at 17.30 hrs, and them already being present eating high tea when she got to the tapas at 5.30pm!

How could you forget what had happened when it was the last meal that Kate and the family (supposedly including Madeleine) would ever eat together upon this earth?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2993 on: July 29, 2018, 11:03:PM »
In my opinion, Kate McCann has told a pack of lies about Madeleine still being alive at all at any stage on Thursday 3rd May 2007! Madeleine was already deceased by that time, and her body was not inside apartment 5A when they left to go to the tapas restaurant at about 8.30pm on that last oh so important Thursday evening!

Nobody took Madeleine out of that apartment that evening, it's all absolute nonsense!

I believe the real location where Madeleine died was when she attended the lobster creche on the afternoon of Tuesday 1st May 2007 after she was booked in by Gerry McCann at 14.30hrs...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2994 on: July 29, 2018, 11:05:PM »
In my opinion, Kate McCann has told a pack of lies about Madeleine still being alive at all at any stage on Thursday 3rd May 2007! Madeleine was already deceased by that time, and her body was not inside apartment 5A when they left to go to the tapas restaurant at about 8.30pm on that last oh so important Thursday evening!

Nobody took Madeleine out of that apartment that evening, it's all absolute nonsense!

I believe the real location where Madeleine died was when she attended the lobster creche on the afternoon of Tuesday 1st May 2007 after she was booked in by Gerry McCann at 14.30hrs...

For some reason, Madeleine McCann never left the lobster creche at any stage that afternoon or early evening!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2995 on: July 29, 2018, 11:47:PM »
For some reason, Madeleine McCann never left the lobster creche at any stage that afternoon or early evening!
..which backs the statements of Catriona Baker and Charlotte Pennington. Had there been an accident there they would have involved the emergency services. As for Gerry and Kate remember they are doctors, used to giving orders and reassuring people in their job, including terminally ill patients, which may account for their slightly distant and emotionless demeanour on camera.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2996 on: July 30, 2018, 12:08:AM »
..which backs the statements of Catriona Baker and Charlotte Pennington. Had there been an accident there they would have involved the emergency services. As for Gerry and Kate remember they are doctors, used to giving orders and reassuring people in their job, including terminally ill patients, which may account for their slightly distant and emotionless demeanour on camera.

On the contrary, absence of any signature and the time when anybody took her back out of the creche that afternoon (Tuesday 1st May 2007) casts a huge shadow over the integrity of the nannies! According to CAT-fem, a separate register on a separate page were completed for the morning, and then the afternoon sessions, but in the versions which are clearly forgeries and faked, the morning and afternoon sessions are all recorded on the same page (so much for the nannies knowing what was going on, when they can't even get the basic information right about how the creche registers were produced). It doesn't matter one jot to me that the McCanns and their friends are doctors, or whatever, they know that Madeleine died, and they got rid of her body because of the consequences her death would have upon their lives!

I don't think I am wrong, Madeleine died at the lobster creche on the afternoon of Tuesday 1st May 2007!

Madeleines death has been covered up!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2997 on: July 30, 2018, 12:21:AM »
On the contrary, absence of any signature and the time when anybody took her back out of the creche that afternoon (Tuesday 1st May 2007) casts a huge shadow over the integrity of the nannies! According to CAT-fem, a separate register on a separate page were completed for the morning, and then the afternoon sessions, but in the versions which are clearly forgeries and faked, the morning and afternoon sessions are all recorded on the same page (so much for the nannies knowing what was going on, when they can't even get the basic information right about how the creche registers were produced). It doesn't matter one jot to me that the McCanns and their friends are doctors, or whatever, they know that Madeleine died, and they got rid of her body because of the consequences her death would have upon their lives!


I don't think I am wrong, Madeleine died at the lobster creche on the afternoon of Tuesday 1st May 2007!
Madeleines death has been covered up!
But Charlotte Pennington spoke to her on Thursday 3rd May. http://madeleinemccann.org/blog/2014/04/20/charlotte-pennington/
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2998 on: July 30, 2018, 08:07:AM »
On the contrary, absence of any signature and the time when anybody took her back out of the creche that afternoon (Tuesday 1st May 2007) casts a huge shadow over the integrity of the nannies! According to CAT-fem, a separate register on a separate page were completed for the morning, and then the afternoon sessions, but in the versions which are clearly forgeries and faked, the morning and afternoon sessions are all recorded on the same page (so much for the nannies knowing what was going on, when they can't even get the basic information right about how the creche registers were produced). It doesn't matter one jot to me that the McCanns and their friends are doctors, or whatever, they know that Madeleine died, and they got rid of her body because of the consequences her death would have upon their lives!

I don't think I am wrong, Madeleine died at the lobster creche on the afternoon of Tuesday 1st May 2007!

Madeleines death has been covered up!

this is an interesting theory , i've not come across this one before. Who do you believe killed her? and if it wasn't the McCanns why would they be involved in the conspiracy to cover it up?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2999 on: July 30, 2018, 08:19:AM »
But Charlotte Pennington spoke to her on Thursday 3rd May. http://madeleinemccann.org/blog/2014/04/20/charlotte-pennington/

who else at the creche corroborated her statement?