The case of Madeleine McCann

[Steve_uk]

Steve I know it's different times and places but, I can remember going on holidays to Butlins and parents with babies and young children used to leave them in their chalet at night while they went out, there used to be what they call a chalet patrol.  I wonder if Madeleine's parents were brought up in that holiday environment to do that?  Not defending them by the way it's just a thought because it was common practice.

What was the chalet patrol service?

This was a service run by the nursery department and designed to allow parents to go out in the evening whilst the kids remained asleep in the chalets. Teams of staff would patrol the chalets (sometimes on cycles) and make a note of any from which crying babies or children could be heard. This information was then relayed on the Tannoy or back to the main entertainment buildings where a sign would flash to alert the parents.

Yes I also think parents are off their guard because after all they're on holiday and have left their work behind for a few days. It seemed that there was a group who were all doing the same thing and maybe because the McCann's was the end chalet it was the easiest to abduct from. I do think we live in different times now especially with all the Eastern European immigration it's just impossible to know who's lurking out there.

[guest7363]

Yes I also think parents are off their guard because after all they're on holiday and have left their work behind for a few days. It seemed that there was a group who were all doing the same thing and maybe because the McCann's was the end chalet it was the easiest to abduct from. I do think we live in different times now especially with all the Eastern European immigration it's just impossible to know who's lurking out there.

quite true Steve, people knock them for doing it but thousand and thousands of families used to do it and then you get the kids who have been left in dormitories etc who then think it's natural to do it, times have changed like you said Steve.  Without checking was there some sort of baby sitting service for them?

[Steve_uk]

quite true Steve, people knock them for doing it but thousand and thousands of families used to do it and then you get the kids who have been left in dormitories etc who then think it's natural to do it, times have changed like you said Steve.  Without checking was there some sort of baby sitting service for them?

No I don't think there was but Kate did mention picking up Madeleine from a crèche at 5:30pm which is the last independent sighting of her being alive.

[Steve_uk]

There seems to be contradictory articles on whether there was a babysitting service, whether it covered the McCann's apartment or whether it had been discontinued. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/1900122/We-did-not-get-nanny-service-for-Madeleine-says-Kate-McCann.html

http://blogs.thisismoney.co.uk/2007/05/my_experience_o.html

[Steve_uk]

A new interview with Fiona Bruce:  http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-prime-suspect-is-10326400

[lookout]

The continual thorn in their side is Amaral who's come up with another of his wild ideas that Madeleine was hidden in a coffin with a British woman and was cremated.
His reason for saying this was because of the McCann's daily visits to the church while they were still at the resort.
He's one odious individual who is also being interviewed tonight.

The McCanns will continue to fight his lies and slurs on them.

[Steve_uk]

The continual thorn in their side is Amaral who's come up with another of his wild ideas that Madeleine was hidden in a coffin with a British woman and was cremated.
His reason for saying this was because of the McCann's daily visits to the church while they were still at the resort.
He's one odious individual who is also being interviewed tonight.

The McCanns will continue to fight his lies and slurs on them.

I was wondering about the cadaver dogs lookout (I don't think Amaral is impartial either) and whether they are reliable or not?

[Steve_uk]

I always thought Robert Murat was a good suspect but after he won substantial libel damages from the Press I'd better be careful what I say. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-489408/Madeleines-DNA-Murats-house-police-claim.html

[lookout]

I always thought Robert Murat was a good suspect but after he won substantial libel damages from the Press I'd better be careful what I say. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-489408/Madeleines-DNA-Murats-house-police-claim.html

So did I,Steve. There were lots of things which pointed in his direction----------so suspicious.

[guest7363]

So did I,Steve. There were lots of things which pointed in his direction----------so suspicious.

I hope to god they are proved right Lookout and she is found alive. 

[lookout]

I was wondering about the cadaver dogs lookout (I don't think Amaral is impartial either) and whether they are reliable or not?

If the dogs sniffed anything,it could have been transferred from Kate,who'd attended a couple of deaths before their holiday.No matter how much clothes are washed/dry-cleaned,a cadaver dog will still pick up the scent.
Kate had a Bible with her,which obviously wouldn't have been washed and the transfer of scent would permeate whatever it came into contact with.

Blood which was found behind a settee could have belonged to the family of holiday makers who moved into the apartment soon after the McCanns moved out to their other apartment while still staying in PDL. Tests were contaminated .
The hire van/car was hired after Madeleine had gone missing. The previous hirer was never documented or named.

[Roch]

Same dogs in action here:

https://joana-morais.blogspot.co.uk/2008/01/eddie-and-keela-versus-team-mccann.html

[lookout]

I hope to god they are proved right Lookout and she is found alive.

I've always imagined that she is still alive,justice. I hope so anyway.

[guest7363]

I've always imagined that she is still alive,justice. I hope so anyway.

Bless, and so do the family as well Lookout

Ps I had just been reading this when I saw yours and Jane's post, I couldn't stop laughing thinking what your grandson said.

http://news.sky.com/story/missing-fossil-link-to-jurassic-park-dinosaurs-found-after-more-than-80-years-in-museum-10860656

[lookout]

Same dogs in action here:

https://joana-morais.blogspot.co.uk/2008/01/eddie-and-keela-versus-team-mccann.html

The thing is Roch,those dogs can smell blood and cadavers-----------but one thing they can't do is tell you of who.