The case of Madeleine McCann

[mike tesko]

Mike, with 'Ali Bongo' exposed as a fake... where does that leave the theory about the recreational drugs? That theory must have come from somewhere.

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My own theory...

[Tyler]

I know this sounds far-fetched and disgusting,but I dont think it is a coincidence that( the holiday party invited by the Paynes),that all the children except one,consisted of girls.I think it is possible that the children were being drugged by a couple of the men,in order to be abused.I think it very odd how Oldfield insisted on checking on the McCann children and by the next check Maddie was gone.I believe that the tapas friends silence pact stems from the fact that they all have something to hide,that if discovered would result in them all losing their careers,and their children.

[mike tesko]

I know this sounds far-fetched and disgusting,but I dont think it is a coincidence that( the holiday party invited by the Paynes),that all the children except one,consisted of girls.I think it is possible that the children were being drugged by a couple of the men,in order to be abused.I think it very odd how Oldfield insisted on checking on the McCann children and by the next check Maddie was gone.I believe that the tapas friends silence pact stems from the fact that they all have something to hide,that if discovered would result in them all losing their careers,and their children.

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What - and go to prison for a very long time indeed?

[Sparkfilms]

The aspect of Tanner's sighting that baffles me the most is that she mentions passing Gerry / Jez / Toddler...she could have just said what she saw while she was on her own.

The re-construction of Tanner's sighting was vital to this case.

I tried to contact Jeremy Wilkins today at Zig Zag Productions in London, but was told he left the company two weeks ago.

I just wanted to ask him if he thought Tanner was making up the story for myself.

[mike tesko]

The aspect of Tanner's sighting that baffles me the most is that she mentions passing Gerry / Jez / Toddler...she could have just said what she saw while she was on her own.

The re-construction of Tanner's sighting was vital to this case.

I tried to contact Jeremy Wilkins today at Zig Zag Productions in London, but was told he left the company two weeks ago.

I just wanted to ask him if he thought Tanner was making up the story for myself.

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What I don't get about the alleged abduction by this man, or other, is the route he allegedly took after kidnapping Maddie from 5a, because what does the man do once he gets his hands on poor little Maddie, he walks out onto the car park at the rear of 5a, then out of the entrance and he turns downhill in the direction of the road junction, in immediate peril of bumping into the McCann parents or other group members who could be returning at a moments notice - well, if there was an abductor and he had been watching the routine of the group members with a view to taking a child like Maddie, he would have known of the very strong likelihood that someone or other would or might be returning to their apartment blocks at any moment or time, so I think such an abductor, if there was one would have turned right, up the hill in the opposite direction to the road junction, across which JT allegedly saw the man carrying off the child...

I don't believe Tanners account one bit...

[andrea]

those children should NOT have been left on their own. had an adult been with them maddie would still be here, simple as that.

Pleeeeeeaaase......do you have children Andrea and if you do, did you never ever leave them on their own?

absolutley NOT NO, i hope you wouldnt leave your kids on their own either. had they had adult supervision maddie would still be here, its not rocket science is it?

[Tyler]

I make you absolutely right andrea   +1

[andrea]

I make you absolutely right andrea   +1

thanks tyler have +1 back 

[Sparkfilms]

Agreed Mike, on the apparent unlikely route taken by the 'abductor' - a re-investigation should concentrate fully and in detail re. Jane Tanner's 'sighting'.

If she is lying then it seems certain that she and other members of the Tapas 9 were involved.

[mike tesko]

Agreed Mike, on the apparent unlikely route taken by the 'abductor' - a re-investigation should concentrate fully and in detail re. Jane Tanner's 'sighting'.

If she is lying then it seems certain that she and other members of the Tapas 9 were involved.

... Do you think Jane Tanner should be hypnotically regressed?

[Tyler]

Agreed Mike, on the apparent unlikely route taken by the 'abductor' - a re-investigation should concentrate fully and in detail re. Jane Tanner's 'sighting'.

If she is lying then it seems certain that she and other members of the Tapas 9 were involved.

... Do you think Jane Tanner should be hypnotically regressed?

I think she should be arrested for wasting police time   

[Sparkfilms]

Mike - that sounds like a great idea, reading through the transcripts of Tanner's extended interviews at Leicestershire Constabulary she must have clocked up over one thousand er's and um's.

[HMEssex]

Agreed Mike, on the apparent unlikely route taken by the 'abductor' - a re-investigation should concentrate fully and in detail re. Jane Tanner's 'sighting'.

If she is lying then it seems certain that she and other members of the Tapas 9 were involved.

... Do you think Jane Tanner should be hypnotically regressed?

I understand that she was.  Not sure if this was when she described the colour of the child's pyjamas as being pink etc, which would have been impossible to make out due to the orange street lighting.

Have you ever read her statements?  This woman cannot string a simple sentence together!

[HMEssex]

Aside from the Tapas 9 statements, one statement I've always found intriguing is one made by another holidaymaker at the time, Stephen Carpenter, who says that he, his wife and children left the Tapas Bar between 9.15 and 9.30 and his wife heard someone calling "Madeleine, Madeleine", as they crossed the road to get to their apartment.

This is 30 - 45 mins before Kate raised the 'official' alarm.

[Sparkfilms]

Kate McCann likewise, has never been able to speak freely and opening without numerous pauses and deep breaths.

I heard a few months ago from a friend with a contact in Downing Street ( former body guard to Gordon Brown ) that the family were involved in some way - but no detail,  just that Madeleine may have died in the apartment.