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Offline shonapugs

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #525 on: June 03, 2011, 01:16:AM »
Unless she was taken out to sea, as the tide was going out.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #526 on: June 05, 2011, 12:46:AM »
Its possible.Apparantly the rubbish bins are emptied out at sea in the early hours of the morning.very nice  :o       However,I dont know how true this is.Maybe Mike could tell us?

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #527 on: June 05, 2011, 05:36:AM »
It does seem to be true.

The more I research the accounts of sightings by Jane Tanner, the less I trust her.

Sniffer dogs could not confirm what Tanner said she saw.

None of the Tapas 9 searched in the direction Tanner indicated.

Only two possible sightings of an abductor, the first by Tanner that was more or less dismissed as fabrication by the PJ, and the second by the Smith family.

As far as I can make out the body of Madeleine McCann may well have been hidden in or around 5A for a while.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #528 on: June 05, 2011, 09:30:AM »
It does seem to be true.

The more I research the accounts of sightings by Jane Tanner, the less I trust her.

Sniffer dogs could not confirm what Tanner said she saw.

None of the Tapas 9 searched in the direction Tanner indicated.

Only two possible sightings of an abductor, the first by Tanner that was more or less dismissed as fabrication by the PJ, and the second by the Smith family.

As far as I can make out the body of Madeleine McCann may well have been hidden in or around 5A for a while.

Tanner doesn't seem to get any support does she?  Nobody seems to rate Tanner's sighting.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #529 on: June 05, 2011, 12:52:PM »
Is this the Twilight Zone.....?  :o

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #530 on: June 05, 2011, 03:07:PM »
Its possible.Apparantly the rubbish bins are emptied out at sea in the early hours of the morning.very nice  :o       However,I dont know how true this is.Maybe Mike could tell us?
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I photographed all the bin locations in and around apartment 5a, the "Baptiste supermarket" and "other locations" in the close vicinity - pictures and maps to show their location will be posted in due course...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #531 on: June 05, 2011, 05:22:PM »
Its possible.Apparantly the rubbish bins are emptied out at sea in the early hours of the morning.very nice  :o       However,I dont know how true this is.Maybe Mike could tell us?
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I photographed all the bin locations in and around apartment 5a, the "Baptiste supermarket" and "other locations" in the close vicinity - pictures and maps to show their location will be posted in due course...

But is it true that the rubbish is taken out to sea to be disposed of?

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #532 on: June 05, 2011, 08:08:PM »
Here is a very strange quote from Gerry McCann that was featured on BBC's Panorama...'Kate and I strongly believe that Madeleine was alive when she was taken from the apartment'...

In the hours and days following Madeleine's disappearance Kate often checked to see if the twins were still breathing.

Kate McCann kicked doors and walls in Apartment 5A in the initial aftermath of the event.

Sometimes I wonder if Kate found Madeleine dead herself and the times of the checks were switched around or lost in translation.

All of Kate McCann's actions and figures of speech suggested to some that she referred to her daughter in the past tense.

The rest may be denial.

Collusion between the McCann's and Jane Tanner?

All the hand holding between Gerry and Kate for the media may have been an act. They were not getting on too well during their stay in Portugal.


 

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #533 on: June 05, 2011, 10:36:PM »
Did Russell O'Brien go awol for a period long enough to hide the body of Madeleine McCann?

Police detected a phone call between Gerry McCann's mobile and that of Russell O'Brien between 10pm and 11pm at a distance of further than 10 miles.

The PJ identified a black hole of around 30 minutes after Kate's discovery - by the time they arrived at the compound about an hour or so may have passed in which time the body may have been hidden.

Google images may have confirmed this, and in defence of the McCann's ( for once ) it has to be said that they too enquired about the satellite images.

The McCann's were 'wired' by the PJ and with the full knowledge of Leicestershire Constabulary - at least, this is how I understand it.

Police thought Madeleine died of an overdose of a sleeping sedative.


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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #534 on: June 05, 2011, 10:42:PM »
Did Russell O'Brien go awol for a period long enough to hide the body of Madeleine McCann?

Police detected a phone call between Gerry McCann's mobile and that of Russell O'Brien between 10pm and 11pm at a distance of further than 10 miles.

The PJ identified a black hole of around 30 minutes after Kate's discovery - by the time they arrived at the compound about an hour or so may have passed in which time the body may have been hidden.

Google images may have confirmed this, and in defence of the McCann's ( for once ) it has to be said that they too enquired about the satellite images.

The McCann's were 'wired' by the PJ and with the full knowledge of Leicestershire Constabulary - at least, this is how I understand it.

Police thought Madeleine died of an overdose of a sleeping sedative.
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I think Jane Tanner, and Russell O'Brien, are tied in deeply to the disappearance of Maddie, its just too coincidental that Jane claims she saw the abductor carrying off Maddie, and that Russell was away from the "tapas bar" at the time Maddie disappeared, allegedly from 5a...

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #535 on: June 05, 2011, 10:55:PM »
The visit to the apartment block by Russel O'Brien and Mathew Oldfield at about 9:30pm, is very interesting for a number of different reasons, since, there was no access to their own apartments by way of the patio doors, because these had been locked from the inside and therefore Oldfield and O'Brien could only access their own apartments (5B and 5 D) by way of the roadside doors on the far side of the building away from the tapas bar, pool and restaurant...

Oldfield's apartment door, 5B was next door to the apartment where Maddie and the other two children were supposedly sleeping, and at around 9pm, Oldfield had listened at the bedroom shutter of 5a, when checking on the kids, so why did he listen at the patio door on the poolside of the building when he went back at 9:30pm?

Which route did O'Brien take?

O'Brien would have to use the door on the roadside of his apartment (5D) to check on his child, so he would be on the right side of the building to assist in the removal of Maddie from the apartment (5a), in my opinion...



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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #536 on: June 05, 2011, 11:48:PM »
On the 9.30 check,Matthew Oldfield actually went in to the McCanns apartment via the unlocked patio door.He stood at the door to the childrens room and looked in.He saw the twins asleep in their travel cots,but didnt check Maddie as her bed was behind the door.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #537 on: June 06, 2011, 10:01:PM »
On the 9.30 check,Matthew Oldfield actually went in to the McCanns apartment via the unlocked patio door.He stood at the door to the childrens room and looked in.He saw the twins asleep in their travel cots,but didnt check Maddie as her bed was behind the door.
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How strange, that when Kate McCann went to apartment 5a at about 10pm, she made the exact same error / mistake of not looking for Maddie when she opened the bedroom door...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #538 on: June 07, 2011, 05:37:AM »
I previously said that it was Russell O'Brien, who had a boating accident on the afternoon Maddie went missing, and that he went jogging with Kate, but I was mistaken, it was Mathew Oldfield who nearly drowned, and Mathew went jogging with Kate...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #539 on: June 07, 2011, 06:12:AM »
I detect a degree of jealousy, and animousity, between Mathew Oldfield and Gerry McCann, albeit it does appear to me, to have been one sided. Oldfield was staying in the next apartment (5B) to the McCanns, he is the person who was chasing Maddie around and she was shouting 'chase me, chase me, be a monster'...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...