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Offline mike tesko

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #435 on: May 27, 2011, 08:02:PM »
Direction that a man was allegedly seen by Jane Tanner, carrying off a child in his arms, across the junction from right to left

Such a man would have had to walk along this road once he and the child he was carrying crossed the junction - the apartment where I stayed in June 2010, is situated out of shot to the right in this photograph:-
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #436 on: May 27, 2011, 08:06:PM »
View on other side of road at junction - the direction from which the man carrying the child, emerged:-

According to Jane tanner, the man carrying the child, came down the footpath shown, and crossed the road junction carrying the child in his arms...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #437 on: May 27, 2011, 08:14:PM »
Views from roadside at rear of tapas bar and restaurant:-
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #438 on: May 27, 2011, 08:37:PM »
Alleyway that ran between the poolside of apartment block from where Maddie went missing, and the "tapas bar" where her parents and friends wined and dined:-

Path that runs between poolside of 5a and tapas bar restaurant and pool...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #439 on: May 27, 2011, 11:26:PM »
Jane Tanner first saw an egg man. who turned into a Robert Murat lookalike, and eventually came up with some kind of monster from out of space - amazing how the artist's impression showed a detailed face from front on when all she ever saw was a side view in semi darkness.

I watched 'The Truth of the Lie' today on You Tube, just about everything in the docu points towards a fabricated abduction and death in 5a.

It also points towards a diplomatic cover-up and smokescreen.

Maddie was left alone two nights before for at least 2 hours, and I believe for a similar period on another evening. Maybe the checks by Gerry and Kate were actually part of the operation to dispose of Maddie's body, and perhaps the person Jane saw was an accomplice of the McCann's - just a thought.

( Great pics Mike! ).
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #440 on: May 27, 2011, 11:29:PM »
I was wondering Mike if you could tell us how long in your  own estimate would it take Gerry to go from room 5A to the beach and more specifically the drain you feel Maddie was hidden and back to the apartment?

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #441 on: May 28, 2011, 12:09:AM »
The case of Jeremy Bamber and Jerry McCain bear a striking resemblence - both said "its up to you to prove I'm guilty"....

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #442 on: May 28, 2011, 05:18:AM »
I was wondering Mike if you could tell us how long in your  own estimate would it take Gerry to go from room 5A to the beach and more specifically the drain you feel Maddie was hidden and back to the apartment?
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the time it would take to walk from 5a to that part of the beach where the second horizontal drain is located would be about 8 to 10 minutes, depending upon which route you would / might take - I walked several routes to the drain, incorporating the spot where the Smith family contingent spotted a man who they believed was Gerry McCann carrying the child (Maddie) in his arms. I photographed the route I think is / was the most likeliest taken from 5a, based upon information contained in the Maddie files, and my own personal thoughts, and ideas on the matter. A person walking that route carrying a child, might / would be able to make the return journey from the beach to the apartment block much quicker, since by that stage, with the child disposed of in the seciond horizontal drain on that isolated spot along the coast...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #443 on: May 28, 2011, 06:04:AM »
Baptiste Supermarket - just down the road from apartment 5a:-

Views around the supermarket grounds, and security cameras (as of June 2010), it would take literally two to three minutes to walk from vicinity of 5a to this supermarket. It is not known if these security cameras were in use at the material time that Maddie went missing from 5a, in May 2007:-
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #444 on: May 28, 2011, 06:20:AM »
View from footpath on road at back of apartment block, looking in direction of 5a:-
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #445 on: May 28, 2011, 06:50:AM »
It was along this footpath that Jane Tanner would have had to return to her apartment on the occasion that she claims that she saw the man carrying off a child in his arms, with the steel shutter at the window of 5a, visible to her on that occasion...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #446 on: May 28, 2011, 06:59:AM »
view from pool and tapas bar area:-

Apartment 5a, is shown in this image, far right at end of apartment block...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #447 on: May 28, 2011, 10:07:PM »
Smiffy, this statement analysis approach... purley out of interest... can you give any insight as to how you apply its principles etc?  Is it a known method that you have studied?

its very effective... it is sometimes called forensic linguistics...a very useful investigative tool.

you can research it if you want .....
doing full breakdowns on parts of statements as to why conclusions are reached can take a while and be long winded...sometimes small bits are broken down as an example.

liars are fairly easy to detect in some cases...however giving away all the methods used is not a good idea as those reading up can change things such as forum posts or future evidence to a degree to get around it. That as well as time is why I dont practise giving big breakdowns in forum posts  and limit what I do put.

the statement analysis I am doing in this case...is purely that...my assessments based purely on the statements independent of other information in the case or other peoples views etc or other information available....

once experience is gained using statement analysis ...some deceptions are very easy to spot. In other cases the liar is far more evasive and less obvious...but most the time indicators are found that can suggest areas to be investigated further or hidden information.


oh Jane Tanner..her fabrication in one statement alone is obvious without needing to see changes between her changes of account.

as a side note on Tanner she refers to passing by Gerry and Jeremy...hmm who both did not see her... but she missed something out...that Jeremy was pushing his child around in a pram/push chair...how did she miss that ...doh

I'm non the wiser... but will check it out like you suggest Smiffy.  Cheers.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #448 on: May 29, 2011, 08:27:AM »
Just read Kates book and have to say ive always been a bit cynical about this case, im now sure they didnt have anything to do with it at all.

Not sure about their friends etc... But i dont think tje Mcanns were involved!


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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #449 on: May 29, 2011, 10:02:AM »
Just read Kates book and have to say ive always been a bit cynical about this case, im now sure they didnt have anything to do with it at all.

Not sure about their friends etc... But i dont think tje Mcanns were involved!
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