The case of Madeleine McCann

[joolz1975]

Im inclined to think you may be right! More happened that night than we are led to believe!

Just not sure of the mcanns involvement!

[mike tesko]

Why would members of the tapas group need to be colluding over the times they checked the rooms, before they contacted the police about Maddies disappearance that night?

[Tyler]

Matthew got very distressed during the portugese police interviews.Gerry heard him screaming,shouting and crying and found out later it was because the police were accusing him of handing Maddie out of the window to someone,when he did the 9.30pm check.I believe the police were very near the mark there.But am not overly convinced that they accused the right person.

[gordo30]

Hi to everyone..

I came across this site looking for more info on this case as I believed or more like hoped this case would have came to the ending that we all prayed for, Maddies safe return. I feel now that I am ready to say that the poor girl is now dead and so I need some form of reasoning for myself.

I have seen much made of the demeanour of the McCanns post Maddies disappearance and as I have never been able to satisfy myself with their behavior some of what has been put forward on here is very interesting.
The thing is though that this behavior i.e Gerry's laughing on the porch the day after and such is harder to explain in both regards when we take into account he is either a father clinging onto hope that his daughter has vanished but may still be found, or he was an accomplice or aide in the death,disposal and interment of the remains. To the former I feel this behavior maybe reasoned with but to the later I feel way too much pressure to act this way when at any moment someone could verify that they had saw Gerry with Maddie at an important time that night.

.I do really think that I may have read the McCanns wrong though.I have trouble with the idea that they would keep pushing authorities to help find Maddie if they were responsible for her disappearance.They have welcomed the Met inquiry with relief and gratefulness

I can't help feeling that the only people culpable at this stage are Gerry & Kate and the fact that the longer they keep this case in the public eye the longer they have immunity from the repercussions of their actions that night. The extensive lobbying of the Government keeps up the political and diplomatic pressure on the PJ and again allows them freedom from prosecution. The longer they are seen to be searching for Maddie the more chance the UK and European people will see it as their own form of redemption for what they did, so I really feel this searching for Maddie will continue until her remains are found, then question have to be asked.

[Tyler]

Hi Jason,so you feel that the McCanns were involved in the disappearance of their daughter?Both of them or just Gerry? What do you feel happened,they overdosed Maddie with sedative theory?Even Kate has admitted that she believes Maddie was drugged.But by whom I wonder?

[gordo30]

Hi Jason,so you feel that the McCanns were involved in the disappearance of their daughter?Both of them or just Gerry? What do you feel happened,they overdosed Maddie with sedative theory?Even Kate has admitted that she believes Maddie was drugged.But by whom I wonder?

Thx Tyler..

The possibilities are numerous but until more is effectively known about Gerry and Kate then its hard to pinpoint whether one or both can be considered to have been part of it.
I believe the medical notes relating to the pair were never forwarded to the PJ and the insight they might have created is great, did Kate suffer post natal depression?, did she cope with 3 young kids?(we know she felt Maddie was a handful) could Gerry have acted alone in the sedation plot due to his wife's inability to cope? The two younger twins did not wake up during the commotion that evening were they sedated?
It seems way too much diplomatic pressure was brought to bare on the PJ that so many questions were just not asked and too many lines of enquiry faltered because of it.

There is however no way that Gerry himself could of commit ed any act and got to this point without the help of almost all those in that party at some point, were they doing it through design or through their loyalty to a friend, did they feel that something sinister had happened or were they innocent by dumb association!!

I have to continue reading whats available to answer these question myself but its nice to know others feel the same.

[smiffy]

 I have looked at Tanners statements about seeing a man carrying a child...and using statement analysis I have no doubts at all that her claims to see a man possibly abducting Maddie are fabricated.
I do not think it is a mental health issue of hers leading her to fabricate this bit of false evidence so conclude she is party to covering up a criminal act.

[gordo30]

Hi Smiffy..

I agree Tanners descriptions were so varied in his height,clothing,and hair style/colour that they were no use at all to the PJ, If we do take the fact the the Smith families statements do outline the fact that a man existed if you believe their feeling later on in that it was Gerry they had seen then what Tanner may well have been describing was Gerry himself.

I must admit personally that the Smiths statements are probably one of the main reasons why I now feel Maddie is dead as I take them to be diligent and credible witnesses who having never been properly followed up, it angers me a fair degree.

[nugnug]

its funny the mcanns weren't considered suspects until they started slagging off the police.

[Sparkfilms]

its funny the mcanns weren't considered suspects until they started slagging off the police.

I don't think this is so, the McCanns were in the frame from the moment the PJ arrived.

[nugnug]

that could be well be true.

but they became named suspects after they started running down the police.

[mike tesko]

Photographs of strap device for steel window shutters of apartment 5a:-

Here is a photographic record of exactly how the steel shutter at the bedroom window where Maddie normally slept can be operated from a closed position (with shutter in down position) to an open position (with shutter up) and back down again (with shutter back in down position):-

[mike tesko]

Security device is activated / deactivated on mechanism trapping and releasing strap to open and close steel shutter on outside of closed window (accordingly)...

[mike tesko]

A similar device is located at the top right hand side of the window, so that when the strap is flush with the vertical wall, the steel shutter on the outside of the bedroom window cannot be raised because the strap is immobilized (top and bottom), and can only be raised in the event that someone on the inside of the bedroom operates the strap as shown by pulling it away from the face of the bedroom wall and pulling in a downward fashion, which in turn will start to raise the steel shutter on the outside of the bedroom window...

[mike tesko]

The way this security device on this window operates, prevents the account given by Kate and Gerry McCann, that they gave to the police, about immediately discovering Maddie had been taken, and was missing (once everyone returned to apartment 5a from the tapas bar) Gerry rushing outside to open the steel shutter from the outside, and succeeding, being true - but rather that it was inaccurate and misleading, and helps to focus everyones attention on a made up account about what allegedly occurred back at 5a, once the disappearance of Maddie was discovered...