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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2175 on: November 02, 2013, 08:57:AM »
Easy option to blame deceased, as a suspect - lets see the hard evidence which led police to identify him as the key suspect...




That's right Mike,,and from where I'm sitting,,there's no hard evidence whatsoever.
Had Jeremy been diagnosed as a psychopath,,then we wouldn't be here.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2176 on: November 02, 2013, 09:23:AM »
'Scapegoat' worked at the Millennium and was caught taking 5 euros from the till and sacked. Charges were not pressed as the amount was so small. Allegedly he took his dismissal in good faith. This was a year before Maddie disappeared. Police say they have traced his mobile phone as being in the area of 5a that night.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2177 on: November 02, 2013, 09:55:AM »
'Scapegoat' worked at the Millennium and was caught taking 5 euros from the till and sacked. Charges were not pressed as the amount was so small. Allegedly he took his dismissal in good faith. This was a year before Maddie disappeared. Police say they have traced his mobile phone as being in the area of 5a that night.



I'm sure his wasn't the only mobile used in the area that night. That was a weak " excuse ".

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2178 on: November 02, 2013, 10:14:AM »
I agree. He lived and worked 15 minutes drive away. I don't know where the masts are located. It is said that he was a heroin addict and burgled apartments for cash to feed his habit. Why then,would he take Maddie but leave behind valuables? It doesn't make sense! And the disgruntled ex employee theory is tosh imo. This is only my opinion,but I predict that the investigations in both countries will lead nowhere OR it will go full circle and end with the shock arrest of the McCanns. I personally don't see any other outcome.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2179 on: November 02, 2013, 10:22:AM »
I think the fact he was there and used his mobile near apartment 5a at the time when Madeleine went missing is very suspect.  It places him near a crime scene, so this makes him in my opinion a suspect only and not the main suspect. Its still early days and more has to be done in order to accuse this man. I am appalled at the recent disclosure in the press regarding all of this.  I would have thought that the reopening of the investigation would be done with some tact and with no leaks to the press. I find it disgraceful and hurtful to Madeleine's family having read this rubbish..... :-\


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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2180 on: November 02, 2013, 10:49:AM »
I think the fact he was there and used his mobile near apartment 5a at the time when Madeleine went missing is very suspect.  It places him near a crime scene, so this makes him in my opinion a suspect only and not the main suspect. Its still early days and more has to be done in order to accuse this man. I am appalled at the recent disclosure in the press regarding all of this.  I would have thought that the reopening of the investigation would be done with some tact and with no leaks to the press. I find it disgraceful and hurtful to Madeleine's family having read this rubbish..... :-\





Patti,,the McCanns' aren't particularly interested in this latest piece of speculation.They've heard it all before. It's one putting blame onto another all the time,,without any real concrete proof,,and is typical of the police to suspect a dead person,,the same as it is to say that Jeremy did the same,,according to the police. It takes one to know one.!

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2181 on: November 02, 2013, 10:53:AM »




Patti,,the McCanns' aren't particularly interested in this latest piece of speculation.They've heard it all before. It's one putting blame onto another all the time,,without any real concrete proof,,and is typical of the police to suspect a dead person,,the same as it is to say that Jeremy did the same,,according to the police. It takes one to know one.!

Hi Lookout :) 

I've not been watching the news or read up on this much. Has all this been official by the police or is the papers speculating?  :-\

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2182 on: November 02, 2013, 11:03:AM »
Hi Lookout :) 

I've not been watching the news or read up on this much. Has all this been official by the police or is the papers speculating?  :-\



You know what the media's like Patti. Sensationalism sells. The guy was a burglar who had to feed his habit of heroin,to which as is said " he was a slave to the drug ". He was known to be violent as well,,but that was possibly when he hadn't had his fix.
However,,after having been sacked a year previously from the Ocean Club,,why would he suddenly take it upon himself to go into apartment 5a and take Madeleine,,,who,I'm sure would have been raising the roof kicking and screaming as any child would.
Nothing had been taken from the apartment,,so there was no robbery. If he had been there with a view to rob,,he'd have ran like the clappers as soon as a child woke up,I'm sure.
Neither would the man have ventured into the apartment just to kill Madeleine either,,as what would have been the point of that.?
The reason that the guys phone signal would have been detected there would possibly have been the time when the woman upstairs was robbed when she saw a guy in her home.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2183 on: November 02, 2013, 11:20:AM »
Sadly,,if it turned out to be the guy in question,,and it was him carrying a child,,then that child would no longer have been alive at the time. A 6ft 2 chap would have no trouble in keeping a small child quiet.
Again,,it's possible,that if by any chance it was this guy,,then he would clearly have been under the influence of heroin as he strolled along carrying a dead child. He was in no hurry.
Up to now,,we haven't been shown his pic,,against those of the e-fits that were shown. Maybe that's where the police got their lead from,I don't know.
So far,,it is speculation,and the McCanns' don't appear to be perturbed by this latest news.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2184 on: November 02, 2013, 11:22:AM »


You know what the media's like Patti. Sensationalism sells. The guy was a burglar who had to feed his habit of heroin,to which as is said " he was a slave to the drug ". He was known to be violent as well,,but that was possibly when he hadn't had his fix.
However,,after having been sacked a year previously from the Ocean Club,,why would he suddenly take it upon himself to go into apartment 5a and take Madeleine,,,who,I'm sure would have been raising the roof kicking and screaming as any child would.
Nothing had been taken from the apartment,,so there was no robbery. If he had been there with a view to rob,,he'd have ran like the clappers as soon as a child woke up,I'm sure.
Neither would the man have ventured into the apartment just to kill Madeleine either,,as what would have been the point of that.?
The reason that the guys phone signal would have been detected there would possibly have been the time when the woman upstairs was robbed when she saw a guy in her home.

There were no attempted burglaries reported that night.  Mrs Fenn had reported an attempted break in. 
Those that were burgled were in the same block and near to 5a but on saying that those apartments are more accessible being so open to the public. 

If he was desperate to feed his habit he may have taken her to sell rather than kill her.....it doesn't make sense that he took a child and nothing else was missing, unless that was his intent, but now I am specualting....Of course its just a theory at the moment...

If he took M then the Smith's sighting goes out of the window.  He would not risk carrying an abducted child through a resort...Where was his car? How did he get to PLD from Lagos...and how did he return home?  Many more questions need to be asked.  How does one get run over by a tractor?  :-\ :-\ :-\

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2185 on: November 02, 2013, 12:01:PM »
There were no attempted burglaries reported that night.  Mrs Fenn had reported an attempted break in. 
Those that were burgled were in the same block and near to 5a but on saying that those apartments are more accessible being so open to the public. 

If he was desperate to feed his habit he may have taken her to sell rather than kill her.....it doesn't make sense that he took a child and nothing else was missing, unless that was his intent, but now I am specualting....Of course its just a theory at the moment...

If he took M then the Smith's sighting goes out of the window.  He would not risk carrying an abducted child through a resort...Where was his car? How did he get to PLD from Lagos...and how did he return home?  Many more questions need to be asked.  How does one get run over by a tractor?  :-\ :-\ :-\




I was thinking on the lines of stealing the child to sell,,to feed his habit. I also think about what Hewlett said about gypsies stealing her. What bugs me is why,after 12 months would he go to PDL in order to kill just out of " spite/revenge "  of having been sacked. There were plenty of other children about that he could have taken revenge out of,,so why Madeleine.?
Her abduction,I would have said,,was an organised one. There was a guy hanging around that night,,but that hasn't come to light yet.

How he was killed by a tractor remains to be another unanswered question up to now. Like the mystery over the 10 year old Hewlett child who " accidentally " fell from a moving vehicle.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2186 on: November 02, 2013, 12:05:PM »
It's because of the lack of information that you begin speculating and theorising,,and I suppose because of this,the McCanns don't take too much notice any more. It was different at the beginning,in 2007,because any lead was a valuable start in the search for Madeleine.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2187 on: November 02, 2013, 12:22:PM »
This guy could not have been the Smith sighting. He was described as a white male wasn't he?

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2188 on: November 02, 2013, 12:32:PM »
This guy could not have been the Smith sighting. He was described as a white male wasn't he?

Hi Tyler is there a photo of hm anywhere? I don't know if he is black or white... :-\

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2189 on: November 02, 2013, 07:48:PM »
Hi Tyler is there a photo of hm anywhere? I don't know if he is black or white... :-\

Which one?

First image?

Second image?

Another?
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