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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1830 on: October 17, 2013, 11:14:PM »


Lithium,,the woman is a doctor,,and no doubt has probably seen children who have been victims of sexual abuse,,so it's sad if you read anything else in what the woman said.
I've seen abuse myself when I worked at the local hospital,,,and it would be the first thing you thought about when something like abduction happens. There are monstrous people out there.!
I do agree with you lookoutl Kate is a doctor and will be familiar with such things, also any Mother would think of such horrors if their little daughter was taken. Can't imagine how the poor woman copesl xx

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1831 on: October 18, 2013, 12:07:AM »
How does everybody feel about this from Kate McCann's book?  :-\ :-\ :-\



I think she is being brutally honesst here. This is what all parents, relatives and friends would think about among thousands of other possibilities if your child vanished. How unspeakably horrifying.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1832 on: October 18, 2013, 12:14:AM »
How does everybody feel about this from Kate McCann's book?  :-\ :-\ :-\



Hi Dr Lithium

Hell on earth.  If you lose a child in the manner the McCanns have then I would imagine it is a place you are unable to steer your mind away from no matter how torturous. 


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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1833 on: October 18, 2013, 06:16:PM »
Has anyone seen the latest " lost child " who was found by police in Greece.? What a beautiful little girl,,though up to now,nobody has reported her missing.She's a delightful blonde,blue-eyed child who bore no resemblance to the filthy lot who had her in their possession.
It's in the Mail Online. Bless her little heart,,she was so dirty,lost and bewildered. How evil are these people who steal children like this.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1834 on: October 18, 2013, 06:27:PM »
Has anyone seen the latest " lost child " who was found by police in Greece.? What a beautiful little girl,,though up to now,nobody has reported her missing.She's a delightful blonde,blue-eyed child who bore no resemblance to the filthy lot who had her in their possession.
It's in the Mail Online. Bless her little heart,,she was so dirty,lost and bewildered. How evil are these people who steal children like this.

I am just looking at it now Lookout.  Someone must know her she is only 4 years old according to what I'm reading.

She looks frightened to death, bless her.  :(

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1835 on: October 18, 2013, 06:44:PM »
I am just looking at it now Lookout.  Someone must know her she is only 4 years old according to what I'm reading.

She looks frightened to death, bless her.  :(




Aww,,she's a little poppet,,but who she belongs to or when she was taken,,it doesn't say as yet. I know one thing though,,the Greek police don't dawdle. Well done to them. Who knows,,Ben Needham could still be around somewhere,,not knowing,or realising who he is himself. He too was blonde.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1836 on: October 18, 2013, 06:48:PM »



Aww,,she's a little poppet,,but who she belongs to or when she was taken,,it doesn't say as yet. I know one thing though,,the Greek police don't dawdle. Well done to them. Who knows,,Ben Needham could still be around somewhere,,not knowing,or realising who he is himself. He too was blonde.

And Madeline of course.

Yes she is lovely bless her. Someone somewhere is missing her, plus there are others....

Lookout I wish the police would do the same for Ben.......They must feel awful because they are not getting the same publicity..... :-\ :) :) :) :)

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1837 on: October 18, 2013, 07:09:PM »
And Madeline of course.

Yes she is lovely bless her. Someone somewhere is missing her, plus there are others....

Lookout I wish the police would do the same for Ben.......They must feel awful because they are not getting the same publicity..... :-\ :) :) :) :)




Patti I'm surprised that the Greek police didn't act as quickly when Ben went missing,,as they have with this little girl. For all we know,,Ben could be with the gypsies and now " part of them " as he won't have a memory of who his mum is. He'd have suffered a trauma when he was taken,but 18/19 years have gone and his new life would have taken over.
This little mite today could have just been a baby at the time.We don't yet really know the circumstances of her disappearance,so we'll keep abreast of it,,as it's interesting because of her age.,

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1838 on: October 18, 2013, 10:56:PM »
Tanner sighting of man and child, was a red herring, which focussed the attention of the Portuguese police to carry out in depth searches in the wrong direction ...

Mad's was not taken out of PDL that night, she was concealed within it...
« Last Edit: October 18, 2013, 11:50:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1839 on: October 19, 2013, 10:07:AM »
I believe that Maddie was walked out of apartment 5A, to an area close to the supermarket, then carried, by someone known to her, beyond the site where the Smith family saw them, on their way to the coast...

See my map:-
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1840 on: October 19, 2013, 11:43:AM »
Mike the supermarket is the little white square to the right.  Of course you know this because you have been. 

I now believe that who ever took her had transport. The reason I think that is because it would not be safe to carry an abducted child through a resort. The risk of being seen is too high.  I also think that she was passed through the window to someone, and the person that passed her through used the front door to get out.  It could be that the car used was waiting in the car park at the front of the apartment.  I do not believe that Madeline knew the person that took her.   :) :) :)

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1841 on: October 19, 2013, 12:55:PM »
Mike the supermarket is the little white square to the right.  Of course you know this because you have been. 

I now believe that who ever took her had transport. The reason I think that is because it would not be safe to carry an abducted child through a resort. The risk of being seen is too high.  I also think that she was passed through the window to someone, and the person that passed her through used the front door to get out.  It could be that the car used was waiting in the car park at the front of the apartment.  I do not believe that Madeline knew the person that took her.   :) :) :)




Patti,,there was a white van and a blue car in the vicinity,,both noted/seen. A large footprint beneath the shuttered window,,that nobody took much notice of,,which could possibly have been the male driver of the vehicle,,as I think it was a woman who lifted Madeleine from her bed.
Contrary to what you said about Madeleine not knowing the person who took her,,I'm of the believe that the child did know her,,because otherwise Madeleine would have kicked off,and her sounds would have been audible at night.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1842 on: October 19, 2013, 01:29:PM »



Patti,,there was a white van and a blue car in the vicinity,,both noted/seen. A large footprint beneath the shuttered window,,that nobody took much notice of,,which could possibly have been the male driver of the vehicle,,as I think it was a woman who lifted Madeleine from her bed.
Contrary to what you said about Madeleine not knowing the person who took her,,I'm of the believe that the child did know her,,because otherwise Madeleine would have kicked off,and her sounds would have been audible at night.

Hi Lookout :)

Of course that scenario is pure speculation that it was a woman that took her and places the Smith sighting of a man carrying a child as being illegitimate as in the Tanner sighting. 

6 years on and we have now discovered that the man carrying a child was infact someone picking their child up from creche, of course this could be the case with the Smith sightings.  Why these men have never come forward before now is unbelievable, considering the publicity the case had at the time. 

I would have thought the only women that knew Madeline were those that looked after her during the day at the kids club or 4 women who she was on holiday with.

We don't know if chloroform was used on Madeline, it could be that was why the window was open to get rid of the smell. The only other two reasons the window was open was either to pass Madeline through or it was opened as a means of escape. So that is three reasons :) 

Whoever took her Lookout might not be who we thought was initially involved....I would like the police to now concentrate on finding the man carrying a child that the Smith's saw......because as daft as it sounds it could well be it was legitimate.  If that is the case then I do suspect a car was involved....I asked my self if I was to abduct a child I would plan it well and my escape and not walk about the resort with a child, the risk would be too great. 

CR fled PDL that night.....I'd like to know why?  :) :) :) :)

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1843 on: October 19, 2013, 01:30:PM »
Mike the supermarket is the little white square to the right.  Of course you know this because you have been. 

I now believe that who ever took her had transport. The reason I think that is because it would not be safe to carry an abducted child through a resort. The risk of being seen is too high.  I also think that she was passed through the window to someone, and the person that passed her through used the front door to get out.  It could be that the car used was waiting in the car park at the front of the apartment.  I do not believe that Madeline knew the person that took her.   :) :) :)

Patti,

There are two supermarkets, one (a) along the route taken by the person with Mad's, seen by the Smiths, and another supermarket (b) on the same road as the entrance and entry to the tapas bar...

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1844 on: October 19, 2013, 01:37:PM »
it should be self evident, that scotland yard would have had access to the creche records as per the deposit and collection times of children by parents or minders, so and because the British police are now almost sure that it could have been Mad's being carried off when seen by the Smiths, I think the police will already have considered for the possibility that the Smith sighting might be another case of a parent carrying home a child after collection from the creche, and rejected it...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...