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Offline mike tesko

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1815 on: October 16, 2013, 08:05:PM »
Mike,does the Smith sighting necessarily have to be one of the tapas group? Could not one of the tapas members, whilst on one of their 'checks' have handed MM to another person?

Of course, yes - I can go along with that scenario...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1816 on: October 16, 2013, 08:05:PM »
Hi Patti,

I am referring to the alternative times of the checks made by the tapas group, not the reconstruction...

Mike the timeline hasn't changed....except for the one at 9:10 by JT the time its self hasn't changed but the man she saw has...he has now been identified.  :)

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1817 on: October 16, 2013, 08:17:PM »
In GM's statement he says that on the nights before MM's disappearance that he used the unlocked patio door to make the checks. On the night of the disappearance he says he entered the front door of the apartment with a key. I can't understand why his routine changed that night?

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1818 on: October 16, 2013, 08:20:PM »
Mike the timeline hasn't changed....except for the one at 9:10 by JT the time its self hasn't changed but the man she saw has...he has now been identified.  :)

Hi Patti,

I do not necessarily agree that Jane Tanner saw what she claimed she saw...

But, she could have known that the crèche was in use of an evening, and that at a particular time in the evening, a parent usually collected their child, and walked back to their apartment, across the crucial road junction, which Tanner sought or seeks to maintain the man carrying the child walked across...

Of course, put yourself in that mans shoes, he has been to the evening crèche, to collect his child in keeping with his normal practice. As he approaches the junction and before he walks across it carrying his child, surely he looks right into the junction to make sure that there is no oncoming traffic, and if the man had done that, no doubt he would have seen Jane Tanner walking up the hill close to the road junction, the man would also have noted the presence of Gerry McCann and Mr Wilkes, but the big question is, did he...

Gerry and Wilkes do not see Tanner, but did the man see Tanner and Gerry McCann/Wilkes?

I think not...

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1819 on: October 16, 2013, 08:32:PM »
Hi Patti,

I do not necessarily agree that Jane Tanner saw what she claimed she saw...

But, she could have known that the crèche was in use of an evening, and that at a particular time in the evening, a parent usually collected their child, and walked back to their apartment, across the crucial road junction, which Tanner sought or seeks to maintain the man carrying the child walked across...

Of course, put yourself in that mans shoes, he has been to the evening crèche, to collect his child in keeping with his normal practice. As he approaches the junction and before he walks across it carrying his child, surely he looks right into the junction to make sure that there is no oncoming traffic, and if the man had done that, no doubt he would have seen Jane Tanner walking up the hill close to the road junction, the man would also have noted the presence of Gerry McCann and Mr Wilkes, but the big question is, did he...

Gerry and Wilkes do not see Tanner, but did the man see Tanner and Gerry McCann/Wilkes?

I think not...

Well she did see somebody Mike and this was believed to be the abductor.  I have always questioned the fact he was walking towards Murat's in other words east towards Lagos.  Yet the Smith's sees a man carrying a child in the south west....

The man who JT saw has now been identified.......They are working now on the man that the Smith's saw. Do you mean Wilkins?   :) :) :) :)

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1820 on: October 16, 2013, 08:36:PM »
In GM's statement he says that on the nights before MM's disappearance that he used the unlocked patio door to make the checks. On the night of the disappearance he says he entered the front door of the apartment with a key. I can't understand why his routine changed that night?

Hi Tyler the front door was locked the patio door was closed but not locked...if that makes sense. You can't get in the front door without a key....but you can open it from the inside without using a key.... :) :) :) :)

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1821 on: October 16, 2013, 08:50:PM »
Well she did see somebody Mike and this was believed to be the abductor.  I have always questioned the fact he was walking towards Murat's in other words east towards Lagos.  Yet the Smith's sees a man carrying a child in the south west....

The man who JT saw has now been identified.......They are working now on the man that the Smith's saw. Do you mean Wilkins?   :) :) :) :)

Hi Patti,

I personally do not think Tanner saw anybody...

The way I see it, Tanner had access to the details in the crèche register, there may have been evidence in that register that certain children were left there of an evening and collected at some point between 9 - 10pm...

Tanner may have even seen the man she described as having seen on the so called evening of Mad's disappearance, on some previous evening, or occasion, and simply reverted such a sighting onto the evening of Mad's disappearance...

I would be interested to see what the suspect has said to British police, about what he saw as he crossed the road junction carrying his child - I am certain he saw nobody at all...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1822 on: October 16, 2013, 08:55:PM »
It is my opinion, that when Kate went back to 5A, that she was met there by Jane Tanner...

This is something that Kate and Jane have kept a closely guarded secret...

"They've taken her, Maddie is gone"...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1823 on: October 16, 2013, 08:57:PM »
It is my opinion, that when Kate went back to 5A, that she was met there by Jane Tanner...

This is something that Kate and Jane have kept a closely guarded secret...

"They've taken her, Maddie is gone"...

Who took her, and why?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1824 on: October 16, 2013, 09:54:PM »
The way I see it, When Kate spoke those words, "They've taken her, Maddie is gone", she was referring to the two tapas group members who had volunteered to check apartment 5A, at 9;30pm...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1825 on: October 16, 2013, 09:56:PM »
The way I see it, When Kate spoke those words, "They've taken her, Maddie is gone", she was referring to the two tapas group members who had volunteered to check apartment 5A, at 9;30pm...

Why would Kate think that, if it wasn't true...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1826 on: October 17, 2013, 04:04:AM »
« Last Edit: October 17, 2013, 04:10:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1827 on: October 17, 2013, 10:59:AM »
He's too boring,Mike. Only a womans' intuition will understand what I mean. He hasn't got it in him.
Similar to Jeremy in that respect.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1828 on: October 17, 2013, 09:44:PM »
How does everybody feel about this from Kate McCann's book?  :-\ :-\ :-\




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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1829 on: October 17, 2013, 10:42:PM »
How does everybody feel about this from Kate McCann's book?  :-\ :-\ :-\







Lithium,,the woman is a doctor,,and no doubt has probably seen children who have been victims of sexual abuse,,so it's sad if you read anything else in what the woman said.
I've seen abuse myself when I worked at the local hospital,,,and it would be the first thing you thought about when something like abduction happens. There are monstrous people out there.!