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Caroline R

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1530 on: July 06, 2013, 07:32:PM »
In the case of Shannon matthews I think the judge made a comment about Karen Matthews and Michael Donovan, said he wondered whether they had help because neither of them appeared clever enough to carry out the crime alone.

They didn't appear clever enough to tie their own shoe laces!! 

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1531 on: July 06, 2013, 09:49:PM »
Hi All

I would think that in the Shannon M case that they weren't intelligent enough that is why the plot failed..I mean what were they going to do with the poor child in the end????:-\ :-\ :-\

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1532 on: July 06, 2013, 11:58:PM »
Personally,I haven't ruled out the idea that "some" close to the Mccanns were part of a paedophile ring with links with Murat/Malinka.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1533 on: July 07, 2013, 09:17:AM »
Photographs taken by me showing view from landing outside apartment 6 (where I was staying) looking across in the direction of 5A (scene of Madeleine's disappearance):-
« Last Edit: July 07, 2013, 09:33:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1534 on: July 07, 2013, 10:33:AM »
I do not buy into the man carrying child scenario introduced by Jayne Tanner - any abductor with wits about him, would not have turned right out of the car park at the back of apartment 5A and risk being seen by somebody returning from the exit / entrance of the ocean club reception. Surely, if such an abductor carried off Maddie via the rear bedroom shuttered window or the road side door, he would have turned left out of the aforementioned car park, and gone up hill, rather than turn right and go downhill, so as to dramatically reduce the possibility of being seen, or caught red handed...
« Last Edit: July 07, 2013, 10:36:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1535 on: July 07, 2013, 02:05:PM »
It may be nothing but at one stage I was down in the vicinity of the view point near to the church (derelect building No.5 across the road, yet unexplored by myself at that stage), checking for the location of drains and manhole covers in the immediate vicinity, both there and below along the rocky sea shore. I discovered one such manhole cover situated in a very awkward position on a ledge which was accessible with care. Upon looking along the ledge I realized that it might be possible for someone to walk along the ledge to where the manhole cover in question was located. Whether or not anyone would have been either brave enough or foolish enough to attempt to walk along that ledge carrying the body of a small child is another thing, but my attention was drawn to this man hole cover situated there. I took photographs in the vicinity around that time, including the man hole cover in question. Anyway, taking my life in my own hands I tentatively decided to see if I could get to the man hole cover on the aforementioned ledge, go beyond it, turn around and come back...

It was a long drop to the rocks and sea below...

Anyway, as I was inching along the ledge, thinking to myself that if anyone along the coastline could see me I wondered if they might think I was going to jump off to the rocks below and do myself some serious harm. It was then that I noticed them, a pair of heavily framed sunglasses, nestling on the ledge a yard or so from the man hole cover. Upon seeing them I paused and thought how strange that a pair of glasses (in perfectly good order and working condition) should have been deposited there on the ledge close to the man hole cover of interest. I decided to stop walking and took in the view ahead of me, above me and below me. I asked myself how this pair of glasses could have ended up there on this ledge, surely no one had been walking along this narrow ledge whilst wearing them? Whilst standing there and contemplating the ins and outs of how this pair of glasses had ended up there on the ledge, it suddenly dawned on me, that although I had shuffled several feet along the ledge, I would either have to turn around on this narrow ledge to come back to the safety of the lower teared view point, or shuffle backwards on the ledge high above the rocks below, and the sea. At that stage I was having second thoughts about going any further along the ledge towards the man hole cover, but the sighting of the pair of glasses laying on the ledge close to the circular manhole cover intrigued me so much I instinctively decided to proceed towards them. I inched myself forward after succeeding in turning myself around in full circle, onward towards this pair of glasses...

Prior to engaging in this precarious activity I had discovered a wallet on a nearby ledge with documents identifying the person it belonged to as:-

« Last Edit: July 07, 2013, 02:11:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1536 on: July 07, 2013, 02:22:PM »
Which member of the tapas group did the wallet with documents inside it, belong to?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1537 on: July 07, 2013, 06:03:PM »
The day after whatever it was that was so distressing for Maddie, visited in apartment 5A by a british speaking couple whilst parents were out wining and dining at the tapas bar, Madeleine asked her mummy why she didn't come when she had been crying on the evening beforehand - in her book, Kate refers to mentioning it to other members of the group on the evening of Maddies disappearance, which could have been the trigger which sparked off the incident of the abduction. If true, then the too-ing and fro-ing of certain group members between apartments and the tapas restaurant bar on the evening of Maddies disappearance becomes highly relevant...

It may well be that by Kate revealing to the other members of the group on the evening of the disappearance, that Maddie had mentioned something had upset her the previous night in apartment 5A, which had caused Madeleine to cry, calling out for her mummy, set into motion the events which took place between around 9:05pm and 10pm, on evening of 3rd May. If so, it seems highly likely that at least one member of the tapas group, or two, possibly three, played some role in taking Madeleine out of apartment 5A - careful study and analysis of the now known facts throws David Payne, Jayne Tanner, and Russell O'Brien into the frame, since it is activity carried out by these individuals during the relevant period and beyond, which leaps out at you on a study of facts linked or associated with the group...

If the parents (15% risk) had nothing to do directly with Maddies disappearance from apartment 5A that evening, and there was no involvement of pedophile or abduction of child for sale in the disappearance  (4% risk), and it involved someone from within the group, Payne, Tanner (40% risk) and her partner O'Brien, become prime suspects, because one or more were away from the tapas bar during the relevant period between 9:05 and 10pm on 3rd May...

Here is a view of the precarious ledge I have been speaking about, I took the photographs myself:-
« Last Edit: July 07, 2013, 06:06:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1538 on: July 07, 2013, 06:11:PM »
Eye witnesses mention the sighting of a white coloured van parked in the road outside apartment block 5, this is likely to have been a maintenance van, as photographed by myself, in 2010:-
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1539 on: July 08, 2013, 06:06:AM »
Eye witnesses mention the sighting of a white coloured van parked in the road outside apartment block 5, this is likely to have been a maintenance van, as photographed by myself, in 2010:-

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« Last Edit: July 08, 2013, 06:12:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1540 on: July 08, 2013, 10:37:AM »
That child had been " watched " the moment they all landed.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1541 on: July 10, 2013, 01:03:PM »
if thats true that means someone was expecting them.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1542 on: July 10, 2013, 04:32:PM »
if thats true that means someone was expecting them.





Somebody with access to the visitors book/information at the reception area,nugs.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1543 on: July 10, 2013, 04:50:PM »
hmm and who could that be i wonder.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1544 on: July 20, 2013, 09:33:PM »
Parents who went to tapas restaurant on evening Maddie went missing from Apartment 5A, would have been conscious of the possibility that their children needed to be checked on frequently, and with this in mind, when Tanner claims she saw a man carrying a child in his arms crossing the top of the road, walking from the general direction of her apartment, she would have automatically suspected the child might have been her own, or one of the other children belonging to other parents in the group...

I believe Tanner has lied...
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