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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4110 on: April 17, 2019, 03:39:AM »
The Madeleine fund website was launched on the 15th May 2007, the first screen capture of the Store was on August the 25th, 2007, meaning the 2006 copyright must have been visible on the website at its launch...

By the 12th September 2007 the copyright (2006) had been changed to 2007..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4111 on: April 17, 2019, 03:41:AM »
The Madeleine fund website was launched on the 15th May 2007, the first screen capture of the Store was on August the 25th, 2007, meaning the 2006 copyright must have been visible on the website at its launch...

By the 12th September 2007 the copyright (2006) had been changed to 2007..

Is the Madeleine McCann case something of a scam?

The Copyright date of the 'FIND MADELINE ONLINE STORE' (2006) raises eyebrows, particularly since Gerry McCanns sister help to set up and run the online store, accompanied by a pupil she used to teach, and his father a police Officer in Ullapool., Scotland..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4112 on: April 17, 2019, 06:48:AM »
There needs to be an investigation into the date, and by whom the 'FIND MADELEINE ON LINE STORE' was first registered in 2006 - since, with it being registered long before Madeleine McCann even supposedly went missing, and the involvement of Gerry McCanns sister, and others, who lived or worked in Ullapool Scotland in the day to day running and operating of the store not set into operating  motion until the following year (April / May 2007) when the McCanns went to Portugal...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4113 on: April 17, 2019, 06:52:AM »
There needs to be an investigation into the date, and by whom the 'FIND MADELEINE ON LINE STORE' was first registered in 2006 - since, with it being registered long before Madeleine McCann even supposedly went missing, and the involvement of Gerry McCanns sister, and others, who lived or worked in Ullapool Scotland in the day to day running and operating of the store not set into operating  motion until the following year (April / May 2007) when the McCanns went to Portugal...

What must also come into play, is the fact that there must have been more than nine adult members of the so called tapas group in Portugal at the time Madeleine McCanns disappearance was alerted - who were the other unnamed members of the group?

The Gorrod couple, the Carpenter couple, Kate McCanns father?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4114 on: April 17, 2019, 08:24:AM »
There is also the matter of a couple, who entered the McCann apartment on the evening when Madeleine was crying continuously for about one hour and fifthteen minutes - this entry into the premises is understood to have taken place prior to the observations made by Mrs Fenn ( who reported non stop crying between 10.30pm - 11.45pm, on evening 1st May 2007). Rather disturbingly  an unknown couple had entered apartment 5a to deal with a crying child at abut 9.30 - 10pm, that same evening. In contrast Mrs Fenn did not return to her apartment (situated above the McCann apartment in block 5) until about 10pm that evening and sat on the veranda drinking wine or spirits, as was her normal custom!

Neither Mrs Fenn or the unknown couple, knew what the other party did, or observed, because the couple and Mrs Fenn, were not present in block 5 at one and the same time. The couple entered the McCann apartment at a time when Mrs Fenn was absent from her own apartment above the McCanns accommodation, and by the time Mrs Fenn returned to her apartment at about 10pm, the couple had already left the McCann apartment (or as the case may be, have remained inside the McCann accommodation, or alternatively, taken Madeleine out of apartment 5a to another unspecified apartment nearby...

Despite this, once the couple had left the McCann apartment by 10pm,  it would appear that the crying childhood been quelled and must have settled down for about half an hour ( between 10pm and 10.30pm) because Mrs Fenn did not hear any crying at all from any child during the first 30 minutes after arriving back at her apartment at 10pm - the incessant crying started at 10.30pm and lasted until 11.45pm, coinciding with Mrs Fenn hearing the sliding of the patio door on the poolside of the apartment block, accompanied by a child's voice calling out 'daddy, daddy, daddy'..

Now..

Although this suggests that Gerry McCann must have returned to apartment 5a at about that time (11.45pm), it remains possible that the couple who entered apartment 5a at some point between 9.30pm -10pm, had remained inside the apartment throughout the entire period (9.30pm - 11.45pm), and that the yell of a childs vioce calling out, ' daddy, daddy, daddy', coincided with the actual time she may have died..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4115 on: April 17, 2019, 08:36:AM »

Despite this, once the couple had left the McCann apartment by 10pm,  it would appear that the crying childhood been quelled and must have settled down for about half an hour ( between 10pm and 10.30pm) because Mrs Fenn did not hear any crying at all from any child during the first 30 minutes after arriving back at her apartment at 10pm - the incessant crying started at 10.30pm and lasted until 11.45pm, coinciding with Mrs Fenn hearing the sliding of the patio door on the poolside of the apartment block, accompanied by a child's voice calling out 'daddy, daddy, daddy'..

Now..

Although this suggests that Gerry McCann must have returned to apartment 5a at about that time (11.45pm), it remains possible that the couple who entered apartment 5a at some point between 9.30pm -10pm, had remained inside the apartment throughout the entire period (9.30pm - 11.45pm), and that the yell of a childs vioce calling out, ' daddy, daddy, daddy', coincided with the actual time she may have died..

Thus lending credence to the beliefs of some that Madeleine McCann had died or gone missing before either of the two alerts made on the evening of the 3rd May 2007 (by 9.15pm and10pm), in other words, that she could have died or gone missing from as early as the late evening of the 1st May 2007...

There is something not quite right with a number of things in this case...

For example, the copyrighting of the ' FIND MADELEINE ON LINE STORE', set up in 2006 and run by Gerry McCanns sister, and a former pupil of hers ( and his policeman father), and the likelihood that there were other adult members of the tapas nine group at one time or another in Luz, Portugal, including the Gorrod and Carpenter couples, and Kate McCanns father?

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4116 on: April 17, 2019, 08:47:AM »


There is something not quite right with a number of things in this case...

For example, the copyrighting of the ' FIND MADELEINE ON LINE STORE', set up in 2006 and run by Gerry McCanns sister, and a former pupil of hers ( and his policeman father), and the likelihood that there were other adult members of the tapas nine group at one time or another in Luz, Portugal, including the Gorrod and Carpenter couples, and Kate McCanns father?

And, then there is Jez Wilkes, in the vicinity of the McCann apartment at around the time of the first alert (9.15pm) that a child had gone missing from an apartment of the Ocean Club belonging to one of their clients - Jez Wilkes pushing his pram, containing a child, posing the question, which child?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4117 on: April 17, 2019, 09:00:AM »
Two entirely different known alerts that Madeleine McCann had gone missing from the McCann  accommodation (9.15pm and 10pm), and sandwiched in-between both of these alerts, is the alleged involvement between Jez Wilkes, Gerry McCann and Jane Tanner in the road directly outside apartment 5a...

According to Gerry McCanns version of the events, Madeleine was asleep in her bed when he did his 9.05pm check, and Jane Tanner left the tapas bar at about 9.10pm, and made three significant observations...

Firstly - she claims to have seen Gerry McCann and Jez Wilkes who had been pushing a pram at the time they were  stood talking on the McCann apartment side of the road...

Secondly - after passing McCann and Wilkes on the pavement outside the McCann apartment, Jane Tanner introduces sighting of a man carrying off a child in his arms (known as 'Tannerman)..

Thirdly - by 9.15pm and 10pm, it is known that Madeleine has gone missing..

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4118 on: April 17, 2019, 09:04:AM »
Two entirely different known alerts that Madeleine McCann had gone missing from the McCann  accommodation (9.15pm and 10pm), and sandwiched in-between both of these alerts, is the alleged involvement between Jez Wilkes, Gerry McCann and Jane Tanner in the road directly outside apartment 5a...

According to Gerry McCanns version of the events, Madeleine was asleep in her bed when he did his 9.05pm check, and Jane Tanner left the tapas bar at about 9.10pm, and made three significant observations...

Firstly - she claims to have seen Gerry McCann and Jez Wilkes who had been pushing a pram at the time they were  stood talking on the McCann apartment side of the road...

Secondly - after passing McCann and Wilkes on the pavement outside the McCann apartment, Jane Tanner introduces sighting of a man carrying off a child in his arms (known as 'Tannerman)..

Thirdly - by 9.15pm and 10pm, it is known that Madeleine has gone missing..

How, do you transport the body of a child from apartment 5a, before 9.15pm, and which by 10pm that same evening, Madeleine McCann is no longer inside the McCann accommodation?

You either, walk her out, carry her out in your arms, or remove her in a pushchair...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4119 on: April 17, 2019, 09:12:AM »
Seems somewhat logical to me, to treat the sighting of the man carrying off a child in his arms by Jane Tanner at the end of the road alongside the McCann apartment (Tannerman), and the presence of Jez Wilkes with his pram on the pavement directly outside the McCanns apartment , prior to the 9.15pm alert that Madeleine was already known to have been taken, to both be regarded as prime examples concerning where the truth in this so called abduction investigation, rests...

Tannerman has all but been eliminated from any police involvement or suspicion..

Which leaves, does it not, 'PRAMMAN'?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4120 on: April 17, 2019, 09:13:AM »
Then again...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4121 on: April 17, 2019, 09:21:AM »
Then again...

Other now known about events or facts may come into play..

For example, identifying the couple who were sat at a table of the restaurant at around 9.15pm, talking loudly and worryingly about the fact that a child had gone missing from one of the Ocean Clubs clients accommodation...

Whoever this couple are, knew that Madeleine McCann was no longer inside the McCann apartment by 9.15pm at the very latest...

So, who were this couple?

Kate and Gerry McCann?
Mathew and Rachel Oldfield?
Russell O'Brien and Jane Tanner?
David and Fiona Payne?
The Gorrod couple?
The Carpenter couple?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4122 on: April 17, 2019, 09:22:AM »
Also, not to be overlooked...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4123 on: April 17, 2019, 09:34:AM »
Also, not to be overlooked...

Is the fact that at about 9pm, when Mathew Oldfield left the tapas bar on the pretense that he was going to hurry along David and Fiona Payne, and Diane Webster, who were late in attending the restaurant table where other members of the group were about to start their evening meal, how Mathew Oldfield did not return to the tapas bar upon being confronted by the Payne's and Diane Webster who were already en route to the restaurant, but instead Oldfield proceeded to go and check his own apartment, and subsequently the McCann family apartment (5a) before returning to the tapas restaurant..

We know, for example, that Mathew Oldfield must have returned to the tapas restaurant before 9.05pm that same evening, because it appeared as though Gerry McCanns departure to do a check of apartment 5a himself at about 9.05pm, stemmed from Oldfield telling McCann that he had checked apartment 5a...

Well, there exist two different versions of the events concerning how Mathew Oldfield checked the McCann apartment at around 9pm - one account claims that he simply listened outside the McCann Children's bedroom window, which had its shutters fully lowered. This places Mathew Oldfield on the roadside part of  block 5, and apartment 5a..

But..

In another account given to police, Mathew Oldfield declared the following detail and facts...

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4124 on: April 17, 2019, 09:47:AM »

Well, there exist two different versions of the events concerning how Mathew Oldfield checked the McCann apartment at around 9pm - one account claims that he simply listened outside the McCann Children's bedroom window, which had its shutters fully lowered. This places Mathew Oldfield on the roadside part of  block 5, and apartment 5a..

But..

In another account given to police, Mathew Oldfield declared the following detail and facts...

In this second account, Mathew Oldfield claims that when he did his 9pm check of the McCann accommodation that he had entered the premises via the unlocked sliding patio door on the poolside of the apartment block. Once inside how he had gone to the door of the McCann children's bedroom door and looked into the bedroom, only to discover that Madeleine McCann was nowhere to be seen. Thus, how he had then gone along to the bedroom shared by Kate and Gerry McCann to see if Madeleine was present there? Only to find that she wasn't present there at all. He told police that the two younger mcCann siblings were laid on top of the McCann parents bed, but that Madeleine was not there. How, he had them left the apartment by the same sliding patio door on the poolside of the building..

He then returned to the tapas restaurant and spoke to Gerry McCann, the gist of which caused Gerry McCann to jump up to his feet and leave the restaurant at 9.05am, intent upon checking the family apartment (5a), himself...
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