Jeremy Bamber: the Prelude, the Tragedy and the Aftermath

[John]

I don't think so. If any pills had been obtained pre-tragedy,they'd have been experimented with as in a " drug buzz ". If I remember rightly,JM " needed " the so-called tranquilisers because she was suffering from stress with her work. Jeremy was officially offered Valium post-murders.
If anyone was a headworker here it was JM !

You really must keep up.

[lookout]

You really must keep up.

What makes you think that you're up to speed with the case ?

[John]

What makes you think that you're up to speed with the case ?

Well you don't appear to be if you didn't even know that Jeremy asked Julie to get sleeping tablets for him.

[Adam]

I thought Julie already had the sleeping tablets. For her own use.

When Bamber found this out, he asked her to give him some so he could try them. At this time his plan was to drug everyone and burn down WHF.

Julie said he tried the tablets but they were useless.

[Steve_uk]

Have we really learned anything after all this time, has anybody ever got close enough to Jeremy for a heart to heart talk, to coax out the truth in a compassionate setting, where he can maybe be given license to visit other prisons to tell how it was like in his eyes and to prevent further tragedies?      http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/damian-lewis-boarding-school-is-a-very-violent-experience-that-defines-you-emotionally-for-life/ar-BBt4ICT?ocid=spartanntp

[JackiePreece]

Have we really learned anything after all this time, has anybody ever got close enough to Jeremy for a heart to heart talk, to coax out the truth in a compassionate setting, where he can maybe be given license to visit other prisons to tell how it was like in his eyes and to prevent further tragedies?      http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/damian-lewis-boarding-school-is-a-very-violent-experience-that-defines-you-emotionally-for-life/ar-BBt4ICT?ocid=spartanntp

Steve in case you haven't noticed Damien Lewis OBE is an actor not a behavioural scientist 

Is there anything worse than the privileged moaning about being privileged?  Next time I meet princes Willam and Harry and David Cameron I'll ask them if they would describe their experiences of boarding at Eton as "very violent" 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damian_Lewis

Children removed from abusive homes and placed in residential care probably wouldn't describe their experiences as "very violent" as it's all they've ever known!

Damien was referring to the emotional shock to an 8 year old of going from a cosy family home to board at school.  Jeremy said similar and that it helped him cope with prison life.

Steve you ask when Jeremy is going to get the chance for a heart to heart in a compassionate setting.  You seem to be forgetting he's a category A prisoner 

Why don't you discuss the forensics for a change instead of a lot of silliness?

[Steve_uk]

Steve in case you haven't noticed Damien Lewis OBE is an actor not a behavioural scientist 

Is there anything worse than the privileged moaning about being privileged?  Next time I meet princes Willam and Harry and David Cameron I'll ask them if they would describe their experiences of boarding at Eton as "very violent" 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damian_Lewis

Children removed from abusive homes and placed in residential care probably wouldn't describe their experiences as "very violent" as it's all they've ever known!

Damien was referring to the emotional shock to an 8 year old of going from a cosy family home to board at school.  Jeremy said similar and that it helped him cope with prison life.

Steve you ask when Jeremy is going to get the chance for a heart to heart in a compassionate setting.  You seem to be forgetting he's a category A prisoner 

Why don't you discuss the forensics for a change instead of a lot of silliness?

For those of us flailing around to finding a meaning(or an excuse to some) in this mass murderer shooting two little boys in the head as they lay sleeping the above article may be as good as it gets.

[David1819]

For those of us flailing around to finding a meaning(or an excuse to some) in this mass murderer shooting two little boys in the head as they lay sleeping the above article may be as good as it gets.

shooting two little boys in the head as they lay sleeping is much better than shooting them as they stand awake contemplating the situation. At least they didn't know what happened

[Caroline]

shooting two little boys in the head as they lay sleeping is much better than shooting them as they stand awake contemplating the situation. At least they didn't know what happened

It's not really better David  - either way, they end up dead and missing out on a whole life that could have meant something. Who knows who they would have grown up to be or what they might have achieved.

[sami]

hi guys just popped in to say hello.and to see if the new evidence to clear jb has come to light or not .because the last time i was here some members were insisting new evidence is coming soon .ps missed you all

[Jane]

hi guys just popped in to say hello.and to see if the new evidence to clear jb has come to light or not .because the last time i was here some members were insisting new evidence is coming soon .ps missed you all

Sami, HI I don't think anything -other than my opinion- has changed since I joined 4? years ago.

[David1819]

hi guys just popped in to say hello.and to see if the new evidence to clear jb has come to light or not .because the last time i was here some members were insisting new evidence is coming soon .ps missed you all

A fresh application for appeal is being drafted. But It will probably take a few years for JB to have a day in court over it.

[sami]

A fresh application for appeal is being drafted. But It will probably take a few years for JB to have a day in court over it.

thanks for the update david

[lookout]

The " aftermath " included the divorce of JM ( Smerchanski ) from her husband after he'd realised via a confession from the woman that a MOJ had been created through her involvement in colluding. Apparently she'd turned to religion--------------------as you do when you're guilty of sin.

[lookout]

JM will be subpoenaed in the event of an appeal.