Jeremy Bamber: the Prelude, the Tragedy and the Aftermath

[Adam]

Does anyone know if the two shots to Sheila had been contact shots her DNA was more likely to have been found in the silencer?  http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist//ITN/2001/03/12/BSP120301024/?s=jeremy+bamber&st=0&pn=1

I believe one was a contact shot.

[Steve_uk]

What tranquilisers were these ?

The ones Julie brought to Bourtree Cottage made difficult for deglutition.

[Steve_uk]

I believe one was a contact shot.

Yes and Andrew Hunter hints at this as two amateur gun enthusiasts note a silencer mark on Sheila's neck.

[Adam]

Yes and Andrew Hunter hints at this as two amateur gun enthusiasts note a silencer mark on Sheila's neck.

If there were silencer gun marks on Sheila, it means she was killed, as could not shoot herself with the silencer attached.

I doubt a contact shot with a silencer would leave a silencer mark on Sheila's neck. However have you got a source ?

[David1819]

I believe one was a contact shot.

Both were described as "loose contact wounds"

See trial transcript attached

[lookout]

The ones Julie brought to Bourtree Cottage made difficult for deglutition.

The only ones that I remember Jeremy taking were those which were prescribed after the tragedy.Valium ?

There'd have been no need to have got anything from the chemist, if Jeremy had needed knock-out pills-------his mother must have had a plentiful supply at WHF which he could have helped himself to at any time.

[Steve_uk]

If there were silencer gun marks on Sheila, it means she was killed, as could not shoot herself with the silencer attached.

I doubt a contact shot with a silencer would leave a silencer mark on Sheila's neck. However have you got a source ?

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=2441.0

[Steve_uk]

Both were described as "loose contact wounds"

See trial transcript attached

That's interesting David. So June's DNA was present and 13 of 17 alleles of Sheila's, but not deemed enough to say conclusively hers was deposited there.

[David1819]

That's interesting David. So June's DNA was present and 13 of 17 alleles of Sheila's, but not deemed enough to say conclusively hers was deposited there.

I'm not sure what your asking me, I just jumped into the conversation 

[Steve_uk]

I'm not sure what your asking me, I just jumped into the conversation 

I was speculating as to the value of forensic tests performed on the silencer.

[David1819]

I was speculating as to the value of forensic tests performed on the silencer.

Junes DNA most likely got there by contamination when the Jury deliberated

[John]

The only ones that I remember Jeremy taking were those which were prescribed after the tragedy.Valium ?

There'd have been no need to have got anything from the chemist, if Jeremy had needed knock-out pills-------his mother must have had a plentiful supply at WHF which he could have helped himself to at any time.

You're not that well informed obviously if you didn't know that Julie Mugford obtained pills on Jeremy's behalf as part of his plan to drug everybody and then burn the farmhouse down.  Such a nice boy!

[lookout]

Junes DNA most likely got there by contamination when the Jury deliberated

You think ?

[lookout]

You're not that well informed obviously if you didn't know that Julie Mugford obtained pills on Jeremy's behalf as part of his plan to drug everybody and then burn the farmhouse down.  Such a nice boy!

I don't think so. If any pills had been obtained pre-tragedy,they'd have been experimented with as in a " drug buzz ". If I remember rightly,JM " needed " the so-called tranquilisers because she was suffering from stress with her work. Jeremy was officially offered Valium post-murders.
If anyone was a headworker here it was JM !

[David1819]

Yes and Andrew Hunter hints at this as two amateur gun enthusiasts note a silencer mark on Sheila's neck.

This claim has been refuted, I will post in more detail later