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Offline maggie

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Re: The Dogs
« Reply #255 on: February 02, 2013, 04:00:PM »
Yes Myall was called as a witness, his trial transcript is in my achive library thread.

Where are you getting all of this from? Just making it up or repeating what others have said?  :-\
You are so charming hartley.
 What I should have said was that Myall wasnt called as a witness about the figure at the window only Bews was questioned and hestated it was a trick of the light.

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« Reply #256 on: February 02, 2013, 04:04:PM »
You are so charming hartley.
 What I should have said was that Myall wasnt called as a witness about the figure at the window only Bews was questioned and hestated it was a trick of the light.

No that's not true. Myalls transcript is on the forum, Rivlin actually suggest to Myall that it was a trick of light.

I'm not trying to be charming, I'm trying to be accurate.

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« Reply #257 on: February 02, 2013, 04:12:PM »
It must be mentioned somewhere, either in pocket books, statements or discussions between JB & Rivlin, because they brought it up at the trial.

Well, I'm determined to get a copy of something from that morning whatever it proves or disproves. We just keep going around in circles which I don't think helps anyone.

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« Reply #258 on: February 02, 2013, 04:14:PM »
No that's not true. Myalls transcript is on the forum, Rivlin actually suggest to Myall that it was a trick of light.

I'm not trying to be charming, I'm trying to be accurate.

You have my apologies Maggie, you are correct that it was Bews who was asked by Rivlin in court and not Myall.  :-[

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Re: The Dogs
« Reply #259 on: February 02, 2013, 04:15:PM »
Hi tyler, yes I agree it is a possibilty Sheila let someone into the farm that night but they still had to leave the building locked and bolted from the inside.
The log reports are so confused and contradictory on timings that its hard to understand what happened when. There were 2 police cars so could the arrival times etc have been muddled, did they arrive together?
Wasn't there a cockloft someone could have escaped through?

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« Reply #260 on: February 02, 2013, 04:29:PM »
Exactly Maggie, if it turned out that the pocket books either didn't mention it or said it was something like 'a trick of the light' then fair comment. However, you have to question something that wasn't made available. You can't blame JB for not making more of it at his trial! How could he know how his trail would go? It was in the hands of people who he 'thought' were best placed to defend him and bring the relevant fact to the court. If they failed to do so then it's their fault. JB must have mentioned it because his defence questioned Bews about it and 'stupidly' (IMO) gave him the 'trick of light' get out clause. AND as we have all seen, Bews relays this excuse whenever they drag him out for a docu - funny he can never remember who it was who first noticed the phenomenon - sometimes it's JB and other times it's Myall and the guy sweats like a rapist whenever he is asked about it!!!!!

I think we need to be careful about claiming that things weren't available, for example Myalls notes were in court and were given to him whilst being questioned.  :-\

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« Reply #261 on: February 02, 2013, 04:36:PM »
I think we need to be careful about claiming that things weren't available, for example Myalls notes were in court and were given to him whilst being questioned.  :-\

Regardless - where are they now? Pocket books, 'original' statements from that morning...... ??

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« Reply #262 on: February 02, 2013, 06:58:PM »
Wasn't there a cockloft someone could have escaped through?
Yes, if they wanted to break their neck getting down. ;D

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Re: The Dogs
« Reply #263 on: February 03, 2013, 11:33:PM »
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3142.0.html


Somebody was enquiring about PC Myall's pocket book notes.
The link to them is above  :)

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Re: The Dogs
« Reply #264 on: February 03, 2013, 11:37:PM »
I don't suppose they have been typed up anywhere by any chance have they..

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Re: The Dogs
« Reply #265 on: February 03, 2013, 11:43:PM »
I think they were written by Stanley Unwin. ;D

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Re: The Dogs
« Reply #266 on: February 04, 2013, 08:46:AM »
I think they were written by Stanley Unwin. ;D
I suggestimol that they were negartori typiwold. ;D

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« Reply #267 on: February 04, 2013, 08:47:AM »
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3142.0.html


Somebody was enquiring about PC Myall's pocket book notes.
The link to them is above  :)
Nice find Tyler. Now all I have to do is read them. ::)

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Re: The Dogs
« Reply #268 on: February 04, 2013, 09:22:AM »
Nice find Tyler. Now all I have to do is read them. ::)
Ha,not easy is it!
Myall does say,that after that first walk around the outside of the house,that they returned to the patrol car and back-up was called. He and Bewes then went back around the house,and although nothing had changed outwardly,both of the dogs had ceased barking.

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Re: The Dogs
« Reply #269 on: February 04, 2013, 09:52:AM »
I suggestimol that they were negartori typiwold. ;D


Oh,Lugg,,,I've just seen your post,,hahahahahaha. Sitting here laughing my head off.