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Offline Caroline

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Re: "I didn't mean to be horrible to Jeremy.."
« Reply #375 on: April 08, 2017, 12:43:PM »




Your trust knows no bounds !! I'm so glad I'm not the same.

The fact that you are not the same as me, brings me so much joy!
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Few people have the imagination for reality

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Re: "I didn't mean to be horrible to Jeremy.."
« Reply #376 on: April 08, 2017, 12:57:PM »
The fact that you are not the same as me, being me so much joy!





Ditto.

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Re: "I didn't mean to be horrible to Jeremy.."
« Reply #377 on: April 08, 2017, 01:13:PM »
Few people have the imagination for reality

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Re: "I didn't mean to be horrible to Jeremy.."
« Reply #378 on: April 08, 2017, 02:01:PM »
The fact that you are not the same as me, being me so much joy!
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Re: "I didn't mean to be horrible to Jeremy.."
« Reply #379 on: April 08, 2017, 02:06:PM »




Your trust knows no bounds !! I'm so glad I'm not the same.

I'd say it takes a foul mind to suspect others of duplicity.

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Re: "I didn't mean to be horrible to Jeremy.."
« Reply #380 on: December 20, 2017, 02:47:AM »
Following the death of Mary Parkinson, daughter of the late former Cabinet minister and Thatcher confidant Cecil, one cannot but help compare her to Sheila, as she walks along the black iron railings which front those million pound stucco houses in the most fashionable areas of London, and indeed one might be forgiven for mistaking the young woman for Sheila herself, captured in similar mode at around the same time by her husband's lens. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/891668/Mary-Parkinson-Cecil-Parkinson-dead-aged-57-predicted-suicide

The lives ran strikingly parallel: public school educated girls who wanted for nothing materially as they were growing up, who both wished to make an impact, yet who found the stresses and strains of modern life all too much as they turned the pressure inward, descending into anorexia, drugs, depression and suicidal thoughts, finally acted out by Mary earlier this month as a neighbour peered frantically into the letterbox only to spy her lifeless tailor dummy body hanging from the hallway.

One can't help but wonder how Sheila would have coped had she lived, and indeed whether she could have subsisted at all without her bedrock Nevill, Mary's father being her Achilles heel as she finally succumbed to her daemonic thoughts following his death last year. Maybe Sheila would have pulled through with the help of her boys and Colin's sympathetic ear, but it is indicative of both women that they never found Mr. Right romantically(or at least thought they hadn't) and ended up for large periods solitary figures with seemingly very little confidence or inner resources to fend off the brickbats they confronted as their friends deserted them in their hour of need.
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Re: "I didn't mean to be horrible to Jeremy.."
« Reply #381 on: December 20, 2017, 09:37:AM »
Following the death of Mary Parkinson, daughter of the late former Cabinet minister and Thatcher confidant Cecil, one cannot but help compare her to Sheila, as she walks along the black iron railings which front those million pound stucco houses in the most fashionable areas of London, and indeed one might be forgiven for mistaking the young woman for Sheila herself, captured in similar mode at around the same time by her husband's lens. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/891668/Mary-Parkinson-Cecil-Parkinson-dead-aged-57-predicted-suicide

The lives ran strikingly parallel: public school educated girls who wanted for nothing materially as they were growing up, who both wished to make an impact, yet who found the stresses and strains of modern life all too much as they turned the pressure inward, descending into anorexia, drugs, depression and suicidal thoughts, finally acted out by Mary earlier this month as a neighbour peered frantically into the letterbox only to spy her lifeless tailor dummy body hanging from the hallway.

One can't help but wonder how Sheila would have coped had she lived, and indeed whether she could have subsisted at all without her bedrock Nevill, Mary's father being her Achilles heel as she finally succumbed to her daemonic thoughts following his death last year. Maybe Sheila would have pulled through with the help of her boys and Colin's sympathetic ear, but it is indicative of both women that they never found Mr. Right romantically(or at least thought they hadn't) and ended up for large periods solitary figures with seemingly very little confidence or inner resources to fend off the brickbats they confronted as their friends deserted them in their hour of need.
Hi Steve, Its an interesting question which shows privilege can be a double edged sword. 
In reality all we can be sure of is that both women had a 'priviledged' background and both struggled in life.  However, life is always complicated and messy, much depends on genetics, upbringing and to a certain extent luck.  I would hazArd a guess that Cecil Parkinson was an overbearing and demanding father which caused his daughter to constantly strive to get his attention and please him. It is possible Sheila had a similar attitude to her adopted mother and she substituted what she saw as her failure to win such approval by fantasizing about a perfect natural mother and idealised her father.
They were both searching for their knight in shining armour and to live happily ever after but that's a fantasy as well.
Without solid unconditional love the demands of life are harder to bear.  Beyond that Sheila suffered from paranoid schizophrenia, we really don't know how much of Sheila's difficulties in life were due to struggling with a horrendous illness. If she had not suffered such a devastating illness her life may have been very different.  I believe Sheila had courage and resilience because she fought to keep her independence against the odds and struggled to cope with the drugs with side effects could be as bad as the illness itself.

We don't know what went on in Mary Parkinson's life but it seems she also suffered, and struggled using drugs in a different way to ease her pain.

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Re: "I didn't mean to be horrible to Jeremy.."
« Reply #382 on: December 20, 2017, 09:55:AM »
Good post Maggie.What a great shame that Sheila hadn't had the genuine support and guidance that she'd so urgently needed. Talking to a person you trust and who won't judge goes a long way and really can avoid a catastrophe. I'm well up in that field,even being " cruel " to be kind in some instances.
Mental illness is indeed very complex and if you're prepared to give years of support then the outcome can be very rewarding.   

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Re: "I didn't mean to be horrible to Jeremy.."
« Reply #383 on: February 20, 2020, 09:07:AM »
I was in a reasonably fine mood this morning until I perused the Manchester Evening News website: amongst the stories of murder, gunshots fired in Salford, four men in hospital following a police chase, fraud and a Polish flasher this one stood out: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/tragedy-beautiful-young-woman-affluent-17746891?__twitter_impression=true&int_source=taboola&int_medium=display&int_campaign=organic

It seems as if taking drugs on a night out is de rigueur these days, or am I vilifying all youth unjustifiably as I walk under a knife arch to board my Metrolink tram?
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Re: "I didn't mean to be horrible to Jeremy.."
« Reply #384 on: February 20, 2020, 12:13:PM »
So so sad for the family and friends of this lovely girl. The horror of drugs and how they change/alter the brain's mindset. It's the ruination of many families all over the country, sadly. I can only hope that she hadn't realised what she'd done.

The news of late is horrendous !

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Re: "I didn't mean to be horrible to Jeremy.."
« Reply #385 on: February 20, 2020, 12:15:PM »
Cocaine eh? Stay away from it folk.

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Re: "I didn't mean to be horrible to Jeremy.."
« Reply #386 on: February 20, 2020, 12:18:PM »
I could never take anything that knocks me out of control of myself.

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Re: "I didn't mean to be horrible to Jeremy.."
« Reply #387 on: February 20, 2020, 12:20:PM »
I could never take anything that knocks me out of control of myself.
Neither could I lookout. I don't know why hundreds of thousands of people feel the need to imbibe this stuff. Pressure from work, family, an escape route: there must be an alternative.

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« Reply #388 on: February 20, 2020, 12:36:PM »
Neither could I lookout. I don't know why hundreds of thousands of people feel the need to imbibe this stuff. Pressure from work, family, an escape route: there must be an alternative.

I think a lot of people do it for fun too. There are other ways - can't they just get drunk like everyone else?

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Re: "I didn't mean to be horrible to Jeremy.."
« Reply #389 on: February 20, 2020, 12:44:PM »
Neither could I lookout. I don't know why hundreds of thousands of people feel the need to imbibe this stuff. Pressure from work, family, an escape route: there must be an alternative.




Self-control. Self-teaching/training in controlling situations.
 Thoughts on how it would affect family and those around you.
 These are only gained by years of taking the rough with the smooth and being able to separate/detach yourself from problems which can eventually be solved by other means rather than going into a deep depression.  Nothing is ever as bad as it seems if you work things out systematically.
Above all be honest with yourself.

All easier said than done, but when you're a member of the " stiff-upper-lip " brigade it's easier. :-[
This has stayed with me from my childhood days-----a good thing in a way as it's character building.