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Caroline R

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Re: Who would Jeremy have been most happy with?
« Reply #45 on: December 29, 2012, 08:45:PM »
Well maybe Jeremy Bamber has captured the imagination of a small minority of the general public,but like several other alleged miscarriages of justices(Eddie Gilfoyle,Jonathan Jones,Sheila Bowler,Lisa and Michelle Taylor)they're all guilty to my mind.

Emphasis being on the BOLD! However, that answer STILL has nothing to do with the point originally discussed where you suggested that as JB's 'looks' diminish into those of an older man, that so would his support! This is a little childish IMO given that he also has a lot of male supporters (or are you suggesting they are all gay?) and as new things have come to light (and as JB gets older), he has gathered more support!! His looks have nothing to do with how MOST of us view his position and any such support in the beginning would quickly have burned out. This is why I get frustrated with SOME of your posts Steve because you make such sweeping statements and then abandon them or just change the subject when people take the trouble to respond! I don't get it??

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Re: Who would Jeremy have been most happy with?
« Reply #46 on: December 29, 2012, 08:47:PM »
April, do you think he is a member of the house of commons? lol  :D :D :D :D



Patti, politicians do have an ability to side step questions they don't want to answer, don't they, and come to think of it, many are lawyers before they become politicians. What do you think that means? One thing I think is certain, though. Not many are teachers first because if they were they'd be unable to resist answering the question. ;D ;D

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Re: Who would Jeremy have been most happy with?
« Reply #47 on: December 29, 2012, 08:49:PM »
Allegedly:

Eddie Gilfoyle had his wife writing suicide letters in her hand,possibly knowing an incident many years earlier in which she had contemplated suicide.

Jonathan Jones-the poor man's Jeremy Bamber shot his in-laws in a cowshed in Wales,embittered by foreclosure of his flat in Orpington.

Sheila Bowler pushed her deceased husband's aunt into the River Brede to avoid the nursing home fees which could be spent on her daughter's music tuition.

Lisa and Michelle Taylor were guilty of a joint enterprise where one kept lookout whilst another climbed stairs to their love rival's flat and battered her to death.

David Bain killed five family members one morning-no alibi for a 20 minute period-bruising on his body,fibres found under one of the victim's fingernails matching his jumper,David's bloody gloves found under the bed of another victim.

I'm afraid many of you are incredibly naive or far too trusting of human nature. In this category I include prison guards themselves who become unsettled with a long incarceration,which is the reason why these original verdicts are overturned as "unsafe",not because there is cartloads of evidence against them being as guilty as hell.

Errrr, I beg to differ!! You've only just dragged this name from one of your internet searches - this case is a LOT more complicated!! But don't let the truth get in the way of your fire and brimstone attitude!!

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Re: Who would Jeremy have been most happy with?
« Reply #48 on: December 29, 2012, 08:50:PM »
Emphasis being on the BOLD! However, that answer STILL has nothing to do with the point originally discussed where you suggested that as JB's 'looks' diminish into those of an older man, that so would his support! This is a little childish IMO given that he also has a lot of male supporters (or are you suggesting they are all gay?) and as new things have come to light (and as JB gets older), he has gathered more support!! His looks have nothing to do with how MOST of us view his position and any such support in the beginning would quickly have burned out. This is why I get frustrated with SOME of your posts Steve because you make such sweeping statements and then abandon them or just change the subject when people take the trouble to respond! I don't get it??
Very true Caroline, Steve suggests that we are shallow and states we are niaive.
However, if JB is innocent it is a tragedy to watch a young man gradually aging year after year in prison.imo

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Re: Who would Jeremy have been most happy with?
« Reply #49 on: December 29, 2012, 08:53:PM »


Patti, politicians do have an ability to side step questions they don't want to answer, don't they, and come to think of it, many are lawyers before they become politicians. What do you think that means? One thing I think is certain, though. Not many are teachers first because if they were they'd be unable to resist answering the question. ;D ;D
HoHoHo ;D ;D

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Re: Who would Jeremy have been most happy with?
« Reply #50 on: December 29, 2012, 08:53:PM »


Patti, politicians do have an ability to side step questions they don't want to answer, don't they, and come to think of it, many are lawyers before they become politicians. What do you think that means? One thing I think is certain, though. Not many are teachers first because if they were they'd be unable to resist answering the question. ;D ;D

Not sure April......I am leaving Steve alone, cos if I don't I will ruin maggies boots...lol  :D :D :D :D

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Re: Who would Jeremy have been most happy with?
« Reply #51 on: December 29, 2012, 08:55:PM »
Very true Caroline, Steve suggests that we are shallow and states we are niaive.
However, if JB is innocent it is a tragedy to watch a young man gradually aging year after year in prison.imo


I'm actually quite shocked by his recent posts and not in a good way!

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Re: Who would Jeremy have been most happy with?
« Reply #52 on: December 29, 2012, 08:56:PM »
Very true Caroline, Steve suggests that we are shallow and states we are niaive.
However, if JB is innocent it is a tragedy to watch a young man gradually aging year after year in prison.imo


Might I detect something of a "don't rock the boat" attitude about Steve?

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Re: Who would Jeremy have been most happy with?
« Reply #53 on: December 29, 2012, 09:06:PM »

I'm actually quite shocked by his recent posts and not in a good way!


Clearly provocation works, Caroline. It could be that when he finds himself backed into a corner, he provokes his way out 8) 8) 8) 8)

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Re: Who would Jeremy have been most happy with?
« Reply #54 on: December 29, 2012, 09:17:PM »
Errrr, I beg to differ!! You've only just dragged this name from one of your internet searches - this case is a LOT more complicated!! But don't let the truth get in the way of your fire and brimstone attitude!!
You're correct on that one particular case,and obviously as Jeremy plays the long haul game he will sell more newspapers. I'm afraid that's the top and bottom of it.http://davidbain.counterspin.co.nz/blog/was-there-really-enough-doubt-to-find-david-bain-not-guilty

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Re: Who would Jeremy have been most happy with?
« Reply #55 on: December 29, 2012, 09:22:PM »
You're correct on that one particular case,and obviously as Jeremy plays the long haul game he will sell more newspapers. I'm afraid that's the top and bottom of it.http://davidbain.counterspin.co.nz/blog/was-there-really-enough-doubt-to-find-david-bain-not-guilty


Steve, are you saying you've made a snap decision on something you've only just read and only know one side of? Also, did you not say very recently that as Jeremy ages and in your opinion becomes less attractive, interest in him will wane.

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Re: Who would Jeremy have been most happy with?
« Reply #56 on: December 29, 2012, 09:31:PM »
Very true Caroline, Steve suggests that we are shallow and states we are niaive.
However, if JB is innocent it is a tragedy to watch a young man gradually aging year after year in prison.imo
Shallow and naive? Interesting view from someone whose life consists of reading novels. ::)

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Re: Who would Jeremy have been most happy with?
« Reply #57 on: December 29, 2012, 09:37:PM »

Steve, are you saying you've made a snap decision on something you've only just read and only know one side of? Also, did you not say very recently that as Jeremy ages and in your opinion becomes less attractive, interest in him will wane.

He knows nothing about the case April  ;D

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Re: Who would Jeremy have been most happy with?
« Reply #58 on: December 29, 2012, 09:39:PM »
He knows nothing about the case April  ;D

Neither do I, but I can;t half tell a story...lol  :) :) :) :)

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Re: Who would Jeremy have been most happy with?
« Reply #59 on: December 29, 2012, 09:47:PM »
Here is a little snippet from the blog you pasted a link to ......

"he clearly said,three times,that all his family were dead.So why did he later tell a detective that he only saw his mother and father?He couldn't explain to that detective why he said on the phone that all his family were dead when he only saw his mother and father.Did the jury believe that it might have been delayed shock that made him forget he had seen all his family as he was to remember later.But then if it was shock then why was he able to remember seeing his mother and father?I wonder what the jury thought about that"

Now, doesn't that sound VERY familiar? You don't believe that David (who would have been in extreme shock) was confused about how many of his family were dead but you're willing to accept that a professional group of police officers were confused and incapable of relaying and documenting the correct information? And even going so far as to mistake Neville for a woman?
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