Why the media cannot be behind Jeremy

[tyler]

Well.something that RWB said to Ainsley obviously made him sit up and take notice! RWB had no eviidence,only suspicions,and yet a well respected and highly experienced copper is kicked off the case as a result of this 'meeting' between RWB and Ainsley! As Lugg has said,EP were clearly satisfied with the original outcome,but then the silencer turned up.Couldn't be ignored really could it?!

[beaufoy]

Hello
     Concerning the media not being behind Jeremy, surely it should not be a matter of being behind or not being behind any individual. The media have an obligation to inform the public so if there is strong evidence that Jeremy is innocent then it should be printed. The same applies to any other prisoner, and should also mean that if the media know the police as a whole or individuals in the police are corrupt then they should supply the evidence to the general public. The same applies applied to Jimmy Saville where the media knew he was corrupt and helped the police cover up the evidence. Frank Skinner was making jokes about Saville having sex with corpses ten years ago, but the bbc and police are still covering up this aspect of saville's activities
    Concerning Jeremy's lawyer I sent him an e mail a few days ago and he did reply. I told him that I was in possession  of proof that Kent Police officers falsify documents. He told me he was not interested, which is understandable considerring it is not Essex police. Having said that senior officers who are now falsifying evidence in Kent might of worked in Essex twenty years ago, and as it would seem Essex Police falsified evidence. If the same officer can be proven to be falsifying evidence in Kent now it would help the validity of corruption charges against the Essex police investigation.
   Finally let's have a look at the other forms of publicity that are available. Twenty years ago if someone was the victim of being framed then he could go on hunger strick, but the BBC now days will not report the protest. Also twenty years ago people could climb large buildings and put up signs for the media to film, but said signs are now days kept from the tv screen and newspapers. Of course we now have "you tube", but having said that all said outlet does is preech to the converted. Now we come to using politics to publicise misscarriages of justice. This was once a very effiective system, but when robert greene used his election campaign to release evidence concerning Hollie Greig case he was not long in going to prison

The media are neither pro Bamber nor anti Bamber.

The media are interested in stories that sell off the printed page or online.

As with the example of the Daily Mail - 'Bamber Innocent', followed by 'Bamber Guilty' some years later. 

Woofinden gets his fee, and then he gets another one.

I'm hard pushed to think of more than a couple of journalists / media producers out of at least a hundred or so I'm in contact with who think Bamber might be innocent. However. Eric Allison ( Guardian ) was pro Bamber when I spoke to him 2 years ago.

You won't get 'the people' en-masse to join a crusade to free Jeremy Bamber. That is never going to happen.

Forums, Twitter and any other social networking sites are not going to make any difference to the WHF case.

No major breakthrough has been made on this case in the last 20 years.

That is not to say that the media have neglected the 'Bamber may be innocent' theories ( Aga etc ).

Equally, production companies see enough interest in the case to produce documentaries - but the reason they make these programmes is commercial and not with any bias towards Jeremy Bamber.

If Simon McKay hits on anything I'm sure the media will publish it but it is now accepted by people at the heart of the case ( I'm not sure about McKay - he never got back to me, probably for good reason ) that the end of the road has now been reached.

It should be remembered that Bamber is a 'business commodity'.

I do have something further on this but only by PM if anyone should show interest.

[campion]

  Good Morning Beaufoy,  For Your Information, please find the following of interest:-
  Essex-Kent joint police collaboration began in 2007.
  Look up- Essex Police Feature Archive, New  SERIOUS CRIME DIRECTORATE (SCD) for Kent&Essex new joint command.
  SCD under ACC Alan PUGHSLEY and DCSuper Gareth WILSON.

   Since June 2011, SCD (Joint IT Directorate), now includes Norfolk and SUFFOLK. This is known as ECIS- East Coast IT Services.
   Trust this may be of use.

[campion]

Beaufoy,   Further to the above, I am  indecisive concerning ECIS.
  Will IT have more scope for corruption, or will IT be scope for more corruption?
  Could it be considered beneficial that a Joint Cold Case unit of non-masonic personnel be formed to investigate former cases of Denning's infamous Noble Cause Corruption (NCC), for the championship of Democracy, by the exposition of PII usage??

[Aunt Agatha]

Possibly because a big spanner (silencer) was thrown into the works by the relatives? I think that is where most of the conspiracy theories come from?

I remember quite clearly the day Jeremy Cat A status was removed.....and he became Cat B.

Immediately, DB was on TV stating he would do all he could to have Jeremy return to Cat A.

Guess what?  Jeremy returned to Cat A.

Now tell me this family has no power!!!

Is it from a position of 'power' or from 'knowledge'.......or both!!

Who else has the power to get the results that this family have called for?

Cover up.....you betcha!!

[big-goolies]

Cover up.....you betcha!!

 
whats the 'cover up' ??

[Aunt Agatha]

Also.......I agree the media should be behind the 'truth' etc.....if one man has proof of innocence then it should be investigated and covered thoroughly.

However, reading previous posts, I think the point I was trying to make has gone over all your heads.......the media CANNOT support Jeremy as the consequences are too high a price to pay.  It would bring the Judicial System to its knees and those responsible would certainly feel the weight from those up high.

It is the 'Queens' Courts.........the link I posted explains things far better than I can.

[Aunt Agatha]

 
whats the 'cover up' ??






Where does one begin??

The lies, the inconsistencies, the withholding of information, tampering of evidence etc..........Jeremy's case is not straight forward due to this and much more.

Not only are the police involved but the family too.......

[Aunt Agatha]

"In a Government of Laws, existence of the Government will be imperiled if it fails to observe the Law scrupulously. Government is the potent omnipresent teacher. For good or ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. If the Government becomes a Lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for the Law and invites every man to become a Law unto himself, it invites anarchy”.




For some it is the last recourse against the flagrant abuse, total disregard and contempt of the Rule of Law by the UK and its Judicial Authorities. In fact the United Kingdom has ignored citations from its own Attorney General, Lord Goldsmith, as quoted above.

Corrupt Judges pervert Justice.

Jeremy continues to be imprisoned aided by the silence of the media.

[big-goolies]

your ideas go right to the top levels of power..... what shall we do about the corruption that threatens our whole democracy ?

[big-goolies]

ive got my pitchfork at the ready

[nugnug]

the media are silent about most things of any importance and have been for some time.

i dont think its a conspriacy its just the lazy bastards cant be bothered to find a real bit of news.

[Aunt Agatha]

the media are silent about most things of any importance and have been for some time.

i dont think its a conspriacy its just the lazy bastards cant be bothered to find a real bit of news.

I would not describe the 'silence' of the media as being a conspiracy......however, they do work with hands behind their backs......

[beaufoy]

Beaufoy,   Further to the above, I am  indecisive concerning ECIS.
  Will IT have more scope for corruption, or will IT be scope for more corruption?
  Could it be considered beneficial that a Joint Cold Case unit of non-masonic personnel be formed to investigate former cases of Denning's infamous Noble Cause Corruption (NCC), for the championship of Democracy, by the exposition of PII usage??

 Hello Campion
            Thank you for the reading material you supplied, but how can it be verified that the personnel are non masonic, remember freemasons take a pledge to lie, so some will say they are not freemasons when in fact they are.
      Let us have a look at the Lord Cullin enquiry into the Dunblaine incident:
   Sorry I cannot remember all the names but bear with me, and advise me of any mistakes.
 The murderer was a freemason
  He received a gun licence because he was sponsored by lord robertson (labour party) who was and is a freemason
  Someone made a complaint (before the murders)about him having a gun licence...said complaint was dissmissed as unfounded by the then chief constable who was also a freemason
   Of course Lord Cullin is a fremason and actually admits to being a member.To hinder anymore closed shop murder/murder enquiries it has been decided that future chair person's of enquiries should be ladies ie that way they can't be grade one freemasons....but they can still be grade two.
     Most of the above information is not denied by the authorities. Lord Cullin claimed that the murderer was not known to him as being a freemason, but according to hansard a well known anti masonic MP confirmed Cullin either had a bad memory or was lying. Said MP named the murderer as being a freemason, and even stated the lodge and joining date of the murderer.
     OH yes there was one non freemason involved in dunblaine she was the ambulance lady who wrote the book. I have contacted said lady, but for reasons I cannot divulge she no longer wishes to talk or write about dunblaine
 

[beaufoy]

There are a few reasons other than being lazy
  The press receive a lot of info from the police and visa/ (phone hacking) this might stop if the press wrote the truth about the police
  The DA notice states "news that underminds the security of England should not be printed"...news about police corruption falls into said category
   The press, politicians, organized crime, judicary, and police have very close connections via freemasons and other secret soceities. This is how the secret meetings (bilderberg) and sacrifice ceremonies were kept secret for so long. I hate to be a conspiracy theorist, but a retired american secret service agent stated the following.....One powerful group of people could kill president Kennedy, but it needed co-operation from a lot of powerful groups to cover up the murder 






I would not describe the 'silence' of the media as being a conspiracy......however, they do work with hands behind their backs......