Lack of ammunition-handling evidence on Sheila's hands

[bloggs and son]

I thought "we all" accepted that when it comes to psychiatrists, most of them are barking!!! Except, of course, those known to us personally!!!

Well I do personally. All the rest are barking.

[mike tesko]

The sample was taken on the 14th of August by Ron Cook, in the presence of Miller, Stan Jones and Ann Eaton. In Davison's 1991 COLP interview Davison was asked about some forms he fiilled in which indicated the sample was taken on the 8th, but he wasn't there and thought the information had been relayed to him by phone.

just so the facts are reported correctly, DS Davidson told the COLP interviewers that the reason the paint sample (RC/1) had been taken on 8th August 1985, was because some paint had been found on the end of a guns barrel. The gun in question was never identified at that stage...

[bloggs and son]

Graham,,I actually contacted Louise Woodwards parents at that time and told them straight that Louise was totally innocent of anything that children can and are cruel individuals when met with changing circumstances,i.e.a new baby.
That toddler had already displayed a nasty streak with previous nannies and also other children,,,and if there'd been a predisposition in that younger baby,,of a bone problem,,that neither was looked into.

I also went to court ( as a spectator ) in 1982,,in Australia when Lindy Chamberlain was attending.
I was probably the only one  at the time who said she was telling the truth,,so I didn't shout too loud,,,just being a visitor as opposed to a resident because feelings were very high among the Aussies.

I thought that Louise was innocent all the time. You are right about children and changing circumstances. Especially when a new baby arrives and all attention is apparently on them and it seems to the older child that he/she is being neglected. My older brother hit me on the head with a hammer once because he was jealous. That's what my mother said anyway.

[mike tesko]

Identifying to whom this (RC/1) exhibit related needs further examination, since everyone wrongly assumes that it was one of Di Ron cooks exhibits, but it could so easily have been one of PC Robbie Carrs exhibits...

[Roch]

Apposite and circumspect posting, David.
  In that Guardian 1988 picture, do I detect Detective StanleyBrain Jones holdig hands with Jeremy?
  It is incredible that you brought to our attention, that the real Dr Scarpetta ((Marcella Fierro)), supports the view that 'no moderator' was used.
In the words of Mandy Rice Davies, would Jones say - 'Well she would say that wouldn't she' ?

Oh ok, I get it. Like I said...

We got there in the end Bridget.

[bloggs and son]

Graham,,I actually contacted Louise Woodwards parents at that time and told them straight that Louise was totally innocent of anything that children can and are cruel individuals when met with changing circumstances,i.e.a new baby.
That toddler had already displayed a nasty streak with previous nannies and also other children,,,and if there'd been a predisposition in that younger baby,,of a bone problem,,that neither was looked into.

I also went to court ( as a spectator ) in 1982,,in Australia when Lindy Chamberlain was attending.
I was probably the only one  at the time who said she was telling the truth,,so I didn't shout too loud,,,just being a visitor as opposed to a resident because feelings were very high among the Aussies.

I just found this article about Louise today. I find it interesting. Because of her case she went on to study law and has a law degree today.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-440819/Louise-Woodward-wants-baby-own.html

[lookout]

I thought that Louise was innocent all the time. You are right about children and changing circumstances. Especially when a new baby arrives and all attention is apparently on them and it seems to the older child that he/she is being neglected. My older brother hit me on the head with a hammer once because he was jealous. That's what my mother said anyway.

Did it knock sense into you,or out of you,Grahame ?

[bloggs and son]

Did it knock sense into you,or out of you,Grahame ?

I think that's why I wear glasses and grew a moustache?

[lookout]

I think that's why I wear glasses and grew a moustache?

Don't knock it Grahame.Makes you look intelligent.

[Roch]

Enjoyed that article, thanks Roch!

A valued expert she seems to have been Mat.  I've never read those Scarpetta books... I wonder if she has?

[bob]

I can see now that the residue which was on Sheila would have been minimal,,,as there were 3 guns in play,,,so no re-loading necessary. For starters,,the rifle that was lying on Sheila's chest wasn't the rifle that was seen on the window-sill,,nor was it the rifle that was downstairs,nor the one that fatally killed her.
One of those rifles was damaged,,,but not the one that was photographed with Sheila and it was devoid of  paint marks. Only one rifle was identified even though the police knew that there had been more than one in use.
The bullet holes in Sheila's neck were made by two different rifles,,containing different bullets,,,as PV19 and PV20 bullets will only fit in their appropriate rifles and aren't interchangeable...There is a difference in thread. Both bullets in Sheila's neck were tested to be different,,,so I doubt that after Sheila shot herself once that she was going to " kindly ask Jeremy if he'd mind finishing her off ",but someone else did,,,and not by the rifle that's shown in her pics. That rifle fires PV20 bullets,,,it was a PV19 bullet that killed Sheila.
The police knew that it was a physical impossibility that the Anschutz rifle was solely responsible for all the murders at WHF but they went to court and swore under oath that one gun only had fired all 25 rounds.

 " the truth,the whole truth,and nothing ( like ) the truth."

"three guns in play"?

[bloggs and son]

Don't knock it Grahame.Makes you look intelligent.

I don't know if that's a compliment or an insult?

[guest154]

Grahame, you remind me of a teacher. So yeah, intelligent.

[lookout]

One rifle downstairs that suffered a bashing during the struggle with Nevill. That isn't the same rifle seen resting on Sheila's chest,,,as that's the one seen on the window sill upstairs,,,given the odd sizes of ammunition PV19 and PV20 are two separate rifles. Then there was the final bullet under Sheila's chin from a " mystery " gun,,,where the wound is different in circumference and diameter,,as well as the difference in weight against the other bullets. 

[bloggs and son]

One rifle downstairs that suffered a bashing during the struggle with Nevill. That isn't the same rifle seen resting on Sheila's chest,,,as that's the one seen on the window sill upstairs,,,given the odd sizes of ammunition PV19 and PV20 are two separate rifles. Then there was the final bullet under Sheila's chin from a " mystery " gun,,,where the wound is different in circumference and diameter,,as well as the difference in weight against the other bullets.

Is that so lookout? I haven't noted that before?