Example of how Relatives Names are Blackened.

[Steve_uk]

Hi Steve_uk

It strikes me right now that you're in denial too.

You also show no remorse for what at times can only be described as rudeness bordering on arrogance.

Yet I'm not a mass murderer. Post the bits about Sheila hitching a lift if you like,but you could find better ammunition for your cause than that irrelevant story,if only you thought it through.

[killingeve]

You don't know he's not a psychopath. He had no feeling for any of the victims apart from a slight sensitivity once in awhile that Nevill wasn't around. This subject was broached by Julie at Blazer's restaurant,Blackheath.

Hi Steve_uk

But you do know that he's a psychopath?  You know better than Vincent Egan do you?

http://jeremybamber.org/psychological-reports/

[Jane]

You don't know he's not a psychopath. He had no feeling for any of the victims apart from a slight sensitivity once in awhile that Nevill wasn't around. This subject was broached by Julie at Blazer's restaurant,Blackheath.

And you don't know that he is, but you would have us believe, by your interminable labouring of the point, that you know better than all the professionals who have examined him. Would I be correct in thinking that you have no respect for psychology?

[Steve_uk]

Hi Steve_uk

But you do know that he's a psychopath?  You know better than Vincent Egan do you?

http://jeremybamber.org/psychological-reports/

I'm cheaper than Vincent Egan. I'm going off Julie's conversation with Jeremy at Blazer's restaurant in Blackheath when Jeremy himself acknowledges that maybe there is something wrong with him as he felt nothing for any of the victims. Liz Rimington formed a similar judgement that there was something not quite right about him.

[Jane]

What do you mean Jeremy "was at no time autonomous"? The murders germinated in his mind,were his idea and he alone is responsible for them

But according to you, he told/hinted to all and sundry of his devilish plans. You have given us a list of those you say can vouch for it.

[Steve_uk]

But according to you, he told/hinted to all and sundry of his devilish plans. You have given us a list of those you say can vouch for it.

He never spelled out that he did the murders,but Julie twigged that he must have been responsible. Of course he acted autonomously.

[Jane]

I'm cheaper than Vincent Egan. I'm going off Julie's conversation with Jeremy at Blazer's restaurant in Blackheath when Jeremy himself acknowledges that maybe there is something wrong with him as he felt nothing for any of the victims. Liz Rimington formed a similar judgement that there was something not quite right about him.

As a bereavement counsellor I can assure you that numbness following bereavement is par for the course as are other seemingly inappropriate behaviours. This is why it is not thought to be advisable to counsel anybody until after the first anniversary is passed.

[killingeve]

Yet I'm not a mass murderer. Post the bits about Sheila hitching a lift if you like,but you could find better ammunition for your cause than that irrelevant story,if only you thought it through.

Hi Steve_uk

You don't need to be a mass murderer to be in denial about various issues, rude and arrogant. 

Given that you have read Colin's book my offer of providing the info was not aimed at you but other posters.

I have enough ammunition for my cause thank you and I don't need you telling me how to think either.

[Jane]

He never spelled out that he did the murders,but Julie twigged that he must have been responsible. Of course he acted autonomously.

I was actually speaking of his life as a whole, NOT the act and its' planning which you believe him guilty of.

[killingeve]

I'm cheaper than Vincent Egan. I'm going off Julie's conversation with Jeremy at Blazer's restaurant in Blackheath when Jeremy himself acknowledges that maybe there is something wrong with him as he felt nothing for any of the victims. Liz Rimington formed a similar judgement that there was something not quite right about him.

Hi Steve_uk

And I'm starting to form a similar judgement about you ie that there's something not quite right.

[Caroline R]

I'm cheaper than Vincent Egan. I'm going off Julie's conversation with Jeremy at Blazer's restaurant in Blackheath when Jeremy himself acknowledges that maybe there is something wrong with him as he felt nothing for any of the victims. Liz Rimington formed a similar judgement that there was something not quite right about him.

Cheaper and not qualified! And obviously Mugford would say that - hardly evidence given the source!! And is that the same Liz Rimmington who slept with Jeremy?

[susan]

N/N  very well put my little naughty nun

[Steve_uk]

As a bereavement counsellor I can assure you that numbness following bereavement is par for the course as are other seemingly inappropriate behaviours. This is why it is not thought to be advisable to counsel anybody until after the first anniversary is passed.

Does that include looking at one's watch at a funeral and declaring "Time's up!". Does it include pinching the waitresses' bottoms at a restaurant where champagne is ordered,does it include not letting one of the relatives inside the hearse leaving her standing outside in pouring rain because "she can go in the other car",does it include ripping up the twins' photograph at the Maida Vale flat,disposing of all Sheila's portfolio except one topless photo which he tried to flog to the Sun newspaper,along with another photograph showing Sheila wielding a gun as a prop,which he considered might have been useful to him?

I could go on about avoiding Auntie Pam and not sorting out his mother's things,as well as the tissue of lies Jeremy spreaded to anyone who deigned to listen to him..

[Jane]

Does that include looking at one's watch at a funeral and declaring "Time's up!". Does it include pinching the waitresses' bottoms at a restaurant where champagne is ordered,does it include not letting one of the relatives inside the hearse leaving her standing outside in pouring rain because "she can go in the other car",does it include ripping up the twins' photograph at the Maida Vale flat,disposing of all Sheila's portfolio except one topless photo which he tried to flog to the Sun newspaper,along with another photograph showing Sheila wielding a gun as a prop,which he considered might have been useful to him?

I could go on about avoiding Auntie Pam and not sorting out his mother's things,as well as the tissue of lies Jeremy spreaded to anyone who deigned to listen to him..

I suspect that many have cause to look back on behaviour alien to them and feel disbelief/ ashamed that they could act in such a way. You would be amazed at what comes out of the woodwork at such times. Families CAN be torn apart forever. If jeremy felt his family's hostility I feel he would have covered it with artificial joviality as a way of telling them he didn't need them. The knowledge that he had NOBODY in the world to whom he belonged must have been a very lonely place.

[Steve_uk]

Hi Steve_uk

You don't need to be a mass murderer to be in denial about various issues, rude and arrogant. 

Given that you have read Colin's book my offer of providing the info was not aimed at you but other posters.

I have enough ammunition for my cause thank you and I don't need you telling me how to think either.

If you can somehow make the incident where Sheila hitches the lift and thankfully escapes from what have could have been a dangerous situation relevant to the events on Wednesday 7th August 1985 then I'm prepared to keep an open mind.