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[susan]

Hi Lugg  I do put a certain amount of credence into polygraph testings if I am wrong the Authorities are wasting so much money on paying for them to be carried out on certain people.  Don't work as is being suggested you have to have been involved in the subject for them to work.  Like benefit cheats, sex offenders.  Don't worry you wont fail or pass Ha Ha.  Unless they ask do you love campion and you answer Yes you might fail just kidding everybody loves campion.

[nugnug]

well if they dont work there wasting a hell of lot of our money.

[susan]

Hi nugnug  I think they do work not saying they are a hundred percent accurate but quite close.  The sad thing is if Jeremy Bamber had failed his polygraph test people would have said told you he was guilty but as he had a positive result they are deemed not reliable.It all depends whether you believe in the reliabity of the test in general.

[lookout]

Hi nugnug  I think they do work not saying they are a hundred percent accurate but quite close.  The sad thing is if Jeremy Bamber had failed his polygraph test people would have said told you he was guilty but as he had a positive result they are deemed not reliable.It all depends whether you believe in the reliabity of the test in general.

Plus the reliability of the person taking the test,Susan. Composure matters most,or you get a " white coat syndrome " result.

[Lugg]

what you have written above and what you have said earlier this morning do not tally.

You said that I'd not bothered to contact Bamber but that you do not need to speak to the relatives. How is that not hypocrisy?

Vidvic the reason I will not contact the relatives is not hypocrisy as you seem willing to accept about me. But that both you and Hartley have made it quite clear that they would not welcome such intrusions. I believe it or not am respecting their wishes by abiding by that request. Also I have enough trust in your honesty to correctly portray their views as you are a direct mouthpiece for them.
However if you need to get Bamber's views from the horses mouth so to speak then I suggest you contact him as you have made it quite clear that you do not trust Mike Teskowski. So you see there is a big difference between me not contacting the relatives and you not contactling Bamber. I actually believe that you are honestly reporting the relatives feelings on these matters. You however do not believe that Mike or anyone else is reporting honestly Bamber's views. Solution? Write to him and then at least you will have his original view and can pull it to pieces without criticism from me or anyone else.
But I reacted to your remark because you came on this forum today with all guns blazing and ready for trouble it seemed that is why I answered you as I did. I thought you'd got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning?

[Lugg]

Vidvic the reason I will not contact the relatives is not hypocrisy as you seem willing to accept about me. But that both you and Hartley have made it quite clear that they would not welcome such intrusions. I believe it or not am respecting their wishes by abiding by that request. Also I have enough trust in your honesty to correctly portray their views as you are a direct mouthpiece for them.
However if you need to get Bamber's views from the horses mouth so to speak then I suggest you contact him as you have made it quite clear that you do not trust Mike Teskowski. So you see there is a big difference between me not contacting the relatives and you not contactling Bamber. I actually believe that you are honestly reporting the relatives feelings on these matters. You however do not believe that Mike or anyone else is reporting honestly Bamber's views. Solution? Write to him and then at least you will have his original view and can pull it to pieces without criticism from me or anyone else.
But I reacted to your remark because you came on this forum today with all guns blazing and ready for trouble it seemed that is why I answered you as I did.

Having said all that Vic I would be quite will and happy to meet with the relatives if you would like to arrange it? Who knows, it may change my perception of things?

[killingeve]

Well he wore a wet suit..

Hi Steve_uk

Can you please explain how JB would benefit from wearing a wetsuit ie what advanatge would a wetsuit provide over normal clothing?

[Steve_uk]

Hi Steve_uk

Can you please explain how JB would benefit from wearing a wetsuit ie what advanatge would a wetsuit provide over normal clothing?

Yes he could rinse any blood off with the shower head at White House Farm,which is exactly what he did do.

[Jane]

Yes he could rinse any blood off with the shower head at White House Farm,which is exactly what he did do.

I hope you managed to stay dry whilst he was doing it because you could only know if he did it if you were there to witness it.

[killingeve]

Yes he could rinse any blood off with the shower head at White House Farm,which is exactly what he did do.

Hi Steve_uk

Not true.  As a keen watersports enthusiast I own a couple of wetsuits.  It's difficult to remove stains from them  In any event EP took JB's wetsuit away for analysis and found nothing.  Are you confusing a wetsuit with a drysuit?  You have recommended to Susan that she reads books on the case to improve her understanding and I would like to recommend that you visit a wetsuit/drysuit retailer and check them out before posting up about this again 

[Lugg]

Yes he could rinse any blood off with the shower head at White House Farm,which is exactly what he did do.

And there's the guilty party trying their best to prove the shower was never used.

[Steve_uk]

Hi Steve_uk

Not true.  As a keen watersports enthusiast I own a couple of wetsuits.  It's difficult to remove stains from them  In any event EP took JB's wetsuit away for analysis and found nothing.  Are you confusing a wetsuit with a drysuit?  You have recommended to Susan that she reads books on the case to improve her understanding and I would like to recommend that you visit a wetsuit/drysuit retailer and check them out before posting up about this again 

Not so difficult if the blood is dripping wet and you have access to a shower head with running water.

[susan]

steve will you please highlight in red what part of my last post to you did I make any inference that it was your fault Crispy was put to sleep.  All I am asking steve is for you to be fair.

[maggie]

Not so difficult if the blood is dripping wet and you have access to a shower head with running water.

I ask you again Steve.  In all reality if Jeremy is not some sort of psychopathic monster, how on earth do you believe he could be capable of such a heinous crime. 

No history of violence before or since (apart from one angry reaction in prison many years ago).  He was able to turn up to meet the police as cool as anyone else and according to you, to play a part. 
Baring in mind he has been found to be free of any psychopathic tendencies, including covering up and hiding such tendencies and shows no sign of any personality disorder or mental illness, maybe you can explain how he managed to do this?

[killingeve]

Not so difficult if the blood is dripping wet and you have access to a shower head with running water.

Hi Steve_uk

Impossible to get it forensically clean from blood, oil etc as wetsuits are porous.  It was analysed by EP.