Example of how Relatives Names are Blackened.

[Bridget]

In the documents that I read,in the second year,the company only made a profit of 3 hundred and something pounds?
I take your point that PE was never charged with anything,and therefore apologise.
Although,if BW's allegations were unfounded,does this not show that we cannot then really put much credence as to her testimony at Jeremy's trial?

I think I've seen what you read, it was the particulars of claim from the civil case which Anthony Pargeter brought against the executor (and other beneficiaries) and I think you're right about the small amount of profit in later years. But I haven't seen the defendants' statements of case and whilst I accept that AP was at least in part successful in his claim, without reading the full decision I don't know which parts of the claim were successful and which weren't.

[tyler]

I think I've seen what you read, it was the particulars of claim from the civil case which Anthony Pargeter brought against the executor (and other beneficiaries) and I think you're right about the small amount of profit in later years. But I haven't seen the defendants' statements of case and whilst I accept that AP was at least in part successful in his claim, without reading the full decision I don't know which parts of the claim were successful and which weren't.

Thanks for pointing that out.Hartley once told the forum that that Anthony and Jackie won the case.I just assumed that he meant all of it.

[ngb1066]

I think I've seen what you read, it was the particulars of claim from the civil case which Anthony Pargeter brought against the executor (and other beneficiaries) and I think you're right about the small amount of profit in later years. But I haven't seen the defendants' statements of case and whilst I accept that AP was at least in part successful in his claim, without reading the full decision I don't know which parts of the claim were successful and which weren't.

I believe the case was settled out of court.  Vidvic will be able to help on this.

[Bridget]

I believe the case was settled out of court.  Vidvic will be able to help on this.

Ok, so then the truth or otherwise of any of the allegations has never really been determined.

[vidvic]

I can read Vidvic!
And I think that you will find that it was Barbara Wilson that accused PE of being a thief! And clearly the Pargeters too....it is contained in the court documents.As to the decision of the court case,well Hartley has previously told the forum that the Pargeters won the case!
So,it is not me that it is making unfounded accusations!
As to your comments regarding my husband.........how Victorian! You're saying that I should think as my husband thinks? Sorry,but I am my own person! My husband was not on the Eaton's pay role,and took absolutely nothing from them!

What you posted was not proof of anything. It was an accusation.
You accused Peter of being a thief. What you posted was not anything like proof of this actually occurring. By exactly the same standard, that Jeremy even appeared in court meant he WAS a murderer?
Please find point 110 from the 2002 appeal;


110. She and the appellant spent the following weekend with Colin Caffell and on 12 August she went to the house in Goldhanger with the appellant. There he told her that the police had been a bit slack because they had not done all the fingerprinting at White House Farm. On 16 August Miss Mugford attended the funerals of Nevill and June Bamber with the appellant and then on 19 August the funerals of Sheila Caffell and her children. During that period the witness spoke of the appellant taking her out for frequent meals, and buying expensive clothes for himself and for her. She described the appellant's mood during this period as "very happy". After one of the funerals they drank champagne and cocktails.


Before you demand apologies, please give me the time to answer.

[Martin]

the point he is makeing constant repetion of words he was found guilty is rather stupid.

And it’s illogical. If a man hadn’t been found guilty how could anybody think that he’d been wrongly convicted?

[nugnug]

weather peter eaton did what he was accused of or not he was accused of it by another family member.

so surely the family have blackened there own name.

[tyler]

What you posted was not proof of anything. It was an accusation.
You accused Peter of being a thief. What you posted was not anything like proof of this actually occurring. By exactly the same standard, that Jeremy even appeared in court meant he WAS a murderer?
Please find point 110 from the 2002 appeal;


110. She and the appellant spent the following weekend with Colin Caffell and on 12 August she went to the house in Goldhanger with the appellant. There he told her that the police had been a bit slack because they had not done all the fingerprinting at White House Farm. On 16 August Miss Mugford attended the funerals of Nevill and June Bamber with the appellant and then on 19 August the funerals of Sheila Caffell and her children. During that period the witness spoke of the appellant taking her out for frequent meals, and buying expensive clothes for himself and for her. She described the appellant's mood during this period as "very happy". After one of the funerals they drank champagne and cocktails.


Before you demand apologies, please give me the time to answer.

I dont recall saying I had posted proof of anything! I said that Patti did re:fingerprinting dust.
I will re-iterate to you again - I have not personally accused anyone of anything. BW did and AP and JW appear to have done.

You know that the farmhouse was not treated as a crimescene as such,as EP felt they had the case concluded.I have never seen ANY evidence that the farmhouse was fingerprinted on the 12th August. If you would care to show me the evidence,( I dont regard he said,she said as evidence),then I will gladly apologise.

And I do not DEMAND apologies,or anything else for that matter, from anyone!

[nugnug]

i think the main charge that we are blackening the family's name can be clearly proven to be false seeing as we are only repeating things they said about each other.

[Lugg]

What you posted was not proof of anything. It was an accusation.
You accused Peter of being a thief. What you posted was not anything like proof of this actually occurring. By exactly the same standard, that Jeremy even appeared in court meant he WAS a murderer?
Please find point 110 from the 2002 appeal;


110. She and the appellant spent the following weekend with Colin Caffell and on 12 August she went to the house in Goldhanger with the appellant. There he told her that the police had been a bit slack because they had not done all the fingerprinting at White House Farm. On 16 August Miss Mugford attended the funerals of Nevill and June Bamber with the appellant and then on 19 August the funerals of Sheila Caffell and her children. During that period the witness spoke of the appellant taking her out for frequent meals, and buying expensive clothes for himself and for her. She described the appellant's mood during this period as "very happy". After one of the funerals they drank champagne and cocktails.


Before you demand apologies, please give me the time to answer.

Hmm. It seems that Miss Mugford was a willing paticipant of all this "partying"? But she does not elaborate on her own "mood".

[Steve_uk]

Hmm. It seems that Miss Mugford was a willing paticipant of all this "partying"? But she does not elaborate on her own "mood".

She was upset that Jeremy was taking everything so light-heartedly,especially with Colin with whom they stayed for a weekend and who had been so magnanimous after the murders.

[Caroline R]

She was upset that Jeremy was taking everything so light-heartedly,especially with Colin with whom they stayed for a weekend and who had been so magnanimous after the murders.

But not too upset to partake of the champagne and cocktails herself?

[Lugg]

She was upset that Jeremy was taking everything so light-heartedly,especially with Colin with whom they stayed for a weekend and who had been so magnanimous after the murders.

She "said" she was upset. Big difference. How she really felt Caroline has rightly detected.

[Steve_uk]

But not too upset to partake of the champagne and cocktails herself?

She had fallen in love with and given succour to a mass murderer. What a dilemma for the poor 20- year-old.

[Lugg]

She had fallen in love with and given succour to a mass murderer. What a dilemma for the poor 20- year-old.

Oh yes I forgot Poor poor girl