Example of how Relatives Names are Blackened.

[Bridget]

Hi Bridget

Well according to RB and BW, who were close to June and NB, JB made negative comments in their presence. 

Lets take RB "Oh Uncle Bobby I could easily kill my parents".  If this was said it could be argued that Jeremy perceived his Uncle Bobby as viewing him (JB) with some skepticism perhaps partly due to differences in personality etc and JB being the adopted son of unknown birth parents, carrying 'bad blood', alien genes etc and JB simply fuelled this by 'shock' comments.

Yes, and there are probably quite a few other possible interpretations of that comment, including the literal one. Does JB deny saying it, or if not, has he ever offered an explanation for it?

[Bridget]

the point is constant repetion of words he was found guilty is rather stupid.

Stupid or not, it's true.

[nugnug]

Being found guilty has a massive impact. Of course in English legal history there have been miscarriages of justice and there will continue to be so. However these are very much an absolutely tiny percentage.

If you want me to be facetious, Colin Stagg was never found guilty as following the judges scathing comments at trial, the prosecution withdrew their case and he was aquitted.

On a seperate note a number of people continue to believe that both Sion Jenkins and less so Amanda Knox are actually guilty.

if you acutlly count the numbers i think you will find they are far more than a tiny percentage.

so its ok to question a jurys verdict if its an acquittal.

but not if its a conviction.

[killingeve]

Yes, and there are probably quite a few other possible interpretations of that comment, including the literal one. Does JB deny saying it, or if not, has he ever offered an explanation for it?

Hi Bridget

I agree, if he said it, it's all down to interpretation and context which we often don't get to hear about.  As you said would JB make such literal comments in the presence of those who were close to June and NB.  If you were planning to murder your entire immediate adoptive family would you tip off your uncle?

[nugnug]

Stupid or not, it's true.

its just that repeating the blatantly obvois over and over again can get rather annoying.

i mean is there anybody here who dident know it was true

did anyone really need reminding.

[ngb1066]

yes they can sue people but they wouldn't get very fasr suing for libel.

and you cant sue someone for saying your a murderer if legally you are.

You are quite right Nugnug.  It would be impossible for Jeremy Bamber to sue for libel.

[Bridget]

Hi Bridget

I agree, if he said it, it's all down to interpretation and context which we often don't get to hear about.  As you said would JB make such literal comments in the presence of those who were close to June and NB.  If you were planning to murder your entire immediate adoptive family would you tip off your uncle?

I tend to think that a lot of these comments have been re-interpreted with hindsight by those that witnessed them - but then i also think that that's natural given that they are seeking answers to the question of how this person whom they thought they knew could have done such a thing. They are, if you like, reassessing their knowledge of him, perhaps rightly, or perhaps not.

[Bridget]

its just that repeating the blatantly obvois over and over again can get rather annoying.

i mean is there anybody here who dident know it was true

did anyone really need reminding.

Apologies for being annoying

But I do think there are some who are overly dismissive of the original verdict, which was delivered by a jury in possession of an awful lot more information than has been posted here. I take the point that there is now further information of which the jury weren't aware, but at the risk of being annoying again, the conclusion of the CoA has so far been that it would not have altered the verdict.

[petey]

if you acutlly count the numbers i think you will find they are far more than a tiny percentage.

so its ok to question a jurys verdict if its an acquittal.

but not if its a conviction.

That is absolute rubbish. Think of the thousands and thousands of cases where justice is correctly meted out.

You don't hear about these. All you hear about are the tiny tiny percantage of cases which are miscarriages of justice, such as Stefan Kiszko, Barry George, Bridgewater 4, Birmingham 6 etc

[mertol22]

While we have a jury made up of people there will always be mistakes nothing can alter that over the last century our society has made many and many more to come it must be part of our genes.

[nugnug]

That is absolute rubbish. Think of the thousands and thousands of cases where justice is correctly meted out.

You don't hear about these. All you hear about are the tiny tiny percantage of cases which are miscarriages of justice, such as Stefan Kiszko, Barry George, Bridgewater 4, Birmingham 6 etc

there are some that speculate it could be as many as one in 5 case or 20 percent

i can count the case it certanly far more than i tiny and im talking people who have been cleared.

not people who are thought by some to be innocent.

[Roch]

I tend to think that a lot of these comments have been re-interpreted with hindsight by those that witnessed them - but then i also think that that's natural given that they are seeking answers to the question of how this person whom they thought they knew could have done such a thing. They are, if you like, reassessing their knowledge of him, perhaps rightly, or perhaps not.

That is a good observation Bridget.

[Bridget]

there are some that speculate it could be as many as one in 5 case or 20 percent

I don't really see how it's possible to speculate with any degree of accuracy.

That is a good observation Bridget.

Thank you

[Lugg]

Stupid or not, it's true.

Perhaps "superfluous" is a better word?

[Bridget]

Perhaps "superfluous" is a better word?

See my comment re overly dismissive...