Would it make a difference if silencer was fitted on gun barrel during shootings

[mertol22]

I'm just playing Devil's advocate here.  If it's finally proven that the silencer wasn't used... how much respect are the family owed?

Respect is something earned roch , not given away like cheap bubble gum, the reciepient has to be worthy and these relatives deserve none, one more thing not all but most murders its often the case the murder weapon is not at the crime scene but found later, who on earth is going to carry out such acts as those of that night and not take the murder weapon away .

[lookout]

not many family's have had as much input as this one did.

normally if you go to the police and say i think one of my relatives was murdered or i think such and such is very suspicious you will be listened to politely and then ignored.

but this case was very different.

You're telling me,nugs. They were falling over themselves to be as " helpful " as they could. What.?

[mertol22]

You're telling me,nugs. They were falling over themselves to be as " helpful " as they could. What.?

The police nor the courts lookout should ever be guided by anything else but the truth and what we have here is start to finish a hanging party.

[nugnug]

also the amount of information they managed to get out of police is amazing.

trying to get any info out the police is normally hard even if you the victem of crime or the relative of a victim.

[lookout]

The police nor the courts lookout should ever be guided by anything else but the truth and what we have here is start to finish a hanging party.

It's all positively iffy,Mertol..no doubt about that. There are none worse than the police who use the class system when it comes to an arrest.

[big-goolies]

Are you our resident expert, in trying to kill your self in an utterly desperate and horrific situation?

 
no expert having never had the need to try shoot myself.  but i think i know enough to say that the first shot to SC's neck would be near impossilbe and would not be a 'death' shot. 
if you wanted to DIY'yourself a pistol to the roof of mouth would be a greater prospect ... also there were known to be 12gauge and 4/10 shotguns in the house , either of these would have been far more effect if she wanted to kill herself

[big-goolies]

 
no expert having never had the need to try shoot myself.  but i think i know enough to say that the first shot to SC's neck would be near impossilbe and would not be a 'death' shot. 
if you wanted to DIY'yourself a pistol to the roof of mouth would be a greater prospect ... also there were known to be 12gauge and 4/10 shotguns in the house , either of these would have been far more effect if she wanted to kill herself

 
this doesnt mean JB is quilty but suicide by SC must be ruled out

[mertol22]

It's all positively iffy,Mertol..no doubt about that. There are none worse than the police who use the class system when it comes to an arrest.

Believe it lookout ive tried to think jeremy is lying everything points to that from ever since the 1986 trial verdict,yet there is still a resonance of question , enough for me to think it was someone else.

[lookout]

Believe it lookout ive tried to think jeremy is lying everything points to that from ever since the 1986 trial verdict,yet there is still a resonance of question , enough for me to think it was someone else.

Mertol,,yes,it was between June,Neville and Sheila. I wouldn't mind betting that June took a shot at Sheila when she saw her husband being bashed with the rifle butt or handle. There was an obvious struggle between June and Sheila because of the same fingernail indentations on Junes arm,so all three were involved.

[nugnug]

we cant be certan that june dident get those scrathes earler in the day though.

[mertol22]

I  may make a post by the weekend to offer the forum a thought to ponder on .

[Caroline R]

I  may make a post by the weekend to offer the forum a thought to ponder on .

Good! We need something to liven things up!!

[Lugg]

 
no expert having never had the need to try shoot myself.  but i think i know enough to say that the first shot to SC's neck would be near impossilbe and would not be a 'death' shot. 
if you wanted to DIY'yourself a pistol to the roof of mouth would be a greater prospect ... also there were known to be 12gauge and 4/10 shotguns in the house , either of these would have been far more effect if she wanted to kill herself

Not necessarily? Some people may want to turn their head away or even bend their head backwards as far as they can so as not to see the weapon they were using against themselves? I know of a case were police were miseld into thinking that a case of a woman shot in the back of the head, just behind the ear was murder. Until it was proved that she had actually shot herself and had turned her head away from the gun. There are a multitude of possibilities I'm afraid and your view as well as mine unfortunately must remain just speculation.

[maggie]

Not necessarily? Some people may want to turn their head away or even bend their head backwards as far as they can so as not to see the weapon they were using against themselves? I know of a case were police were miseld into thinking that a case of a woman shot in the back of the head, just behind the ear was murder. Until it was proved that she had actually shot herself and had turned her head away from the gun. There are a multitude of possibilities I'm afraid and your view as well as mine unfortunately must remain just speculation.

There is also reflex action when we involuntarily move away. By the time poor sheila shot herself she may have been in her sane mind. Poor girl.

[vidvic]

Respect is something earned roch , not given away like cheap bubble gum, the reciepient has to be worthy and these relatives deserve none, one more thing not all but most murders its often the case the murder weapon is not at the crime scene but found later, who on earth is going to carry out such acts as those of that night and not take the murder weapon away .

Comments like this disgust me.