Would it make a difference if silencer was fitted on gun barrel during shootings

[mike tesko]

I do not believe that even if a silencer was fitted to the guns barrel during one or more of the shootings, that it proves Sheila did not kill herself, or indeed, if it makes Jeremy the killer. However, Ewen Smith, now a CCRC Commisioner seemed to think it does, and did...

[vidvic]

I do not believe that even if a silencer was fitted to the guns barrel during one or more of the shootings, that it proves Sheila did not kill herself, or indeed, if it makes Jeremy the killer. However, Ewen Smith, now a CCRC Commisioner seemed to think it does, and did...

What's interesting is that Bamber's own solicitor must have believed him guilty then.

[mike tesko]

At trial, for example, the trial judge Mr Justice Drake, told the jury during his summing up speech, that if the jury accepted the blood in the silencer was an intimate mixture of the parents blood, rather than it be a unique sample of Sheila's exclusive blood, he told the jury that in those circumstances the jury should not concern themselves with how the silencer ended up back in the gun cupboard, they must accept it got put back there in the gun cupboard after the parents had been shot...

[vidvic]

Actually, while youre online, could you explain why, when you visited the farm to ask Peter and Ann to take photos of the house, when you looked into the kitchen window, you didn't take your camera with you? Where did you park your car? Because, if they'd been in then you'd have had to go back to get your camera? Surprised you didn't take a few shots anyway. Did you not think it disrespectful to just turn up without asking first?

[mike tesko]

Actually, while youre online, could you explain why, when you visited the farm to ask Peter and Ann to take photos of the house, when you looked into the kitchen window, you didn't take your camera with you? Where did you park your car? Because, if they'd been in then you'd have had to go back to get your camera? Surprised you didn't take a few shots anyway. Did you not think it disrespectful to just turn up without asking first?

I will do what I want, you nor anybody else will tell me what to do...

[Lugg]

Actually, while youre online, could you explain why, when you visited the farm to ask Peter and Ann to take photos of the house, when you looked into the kitchen window, you didn't take your camera with you? Where did you park your car? Because, if they'd been in then you'd have had to go back to get your camera? Surprised you didn't take a few shots anyway. Did you not think it disrespectful to just turn up without asking first?

I wouldn't have said it was "disrespectful" to knock on their door. People knock on my door without asking first. How are they any more special. It "would have" been disrespectful however if he had done as you suggested and had taken pictures without permission. Which of course as far as we know he did the respectful thing and did not take any pictures.

[Bridget]

I wouldn't have said it was "disrespectful" to knock on their door. People knock on my door without asking first. How are they any more special. It "would have" been disrespectful however if he had done as you suggested and had taken pictures without permission. Which of course as far as we know he did the respectful thing and did not take any pictures.

I'm surprised you have to ask that question.

[vidvic]

I will do what I want, you nor anybody else will tell me what to do...

slap my wrists for asking a question. Any luck with the itemised billing? You promised?

[vidvic]

I wouldn't have said it was "disrespectful" to knock on their door. People knock on my door without asking first. How are they any more special. It "would have" been disrespectful however if he had done as you suggested and had taken pictures without permission. Which of course as far as we know he did the respectful thing and did not take any pictures.

Thankfully you've not had five family members murdered and not had the best mate of the murderer, turn up and ask to take pictures of your kitchen!!!!

[jon]

Thankfully you've not had five family members murdered and not had the best mate of the murderer, turn up and ask to take pictures of your kitchen!!!!

Why don't you shut him up once and for all and take said photograph showing the kitchen ?

[Lugg]

Thankfully you've not had five family members murdered and not had the best mate of the murderer, turn up and ask to take pictures of your kitchen!!!!

But he didn't take pictures. That's the point. Does the milkman phone every time he delivers the milk?

[Bridget]

But he didn't take pictures. That's the point. Does the milkman phone every time he delivers the milk?

Come on Lugg, it's hardly the same. Does your milkman run a website campaigning for the release of the person convicted of murdering 5 members of your family?

[Lugg]

Come on Lugg, it's hardly the same. Does your milkman run a website campaigning for the release of the person convicted of murdering 5 members of your family?

Well if my whole family were murdered there I certainly wouldn't be living there. I personally wouldn't go there and neither would I contact them. But the plain facts of the matter are that Vic accused Mike of being disrespectful by turning up to take pictures but did not do so without permission.
But then again I'm not really sure if he did? It would have taken a lot of nerve to do so.
Personally I have never even been down pages lane, let alone approach the house. People deserve their own privacy without old Lugg hammering on the door asking to take pictures of their kitchen, enquiring, "Was this where Ralph was found dead?".

[Bridget]

Well if my whole family were murdered there I certainly wouldn't be living there. I personally wouldn't go there and neither would I contact them. But the plain facts of the matter are that Vic accused Mike of being disrespectful by turning up to take pictures but did not do so without permission.
But then again I'm not really sure if he did? It would have taken a lot of nerve to do so.
Personally I have never even been down pages lane, let alone approach the house. People deserve their own privacy without old Lugg hammering on the door asking to take pictures of their kitchen, enquiring, "Was this where Ralph was found dead?".

Well yes, that's sort of what I was getting at, but I think it would be disrespectful to even ask, let alone just turn up (if he did). Maybe disrespectful is not quite the right word, more like completely out of order.

[big-goolies]

I do not believe that even if a silencer was fitted to the guns barrel during one or more of the shootings, that it proves Sheila did not kill herself, or indeed, if it makes Jeremy the killer. However, Ewen Smith, now a CCRC Commisioner seemed to think it does, and did...

 
i think you're just trying to twist facts
 
wether the silencer was fitted during the murders of the family does really matter... what does matter is that SC couldnt have shot herself with it on and why would anybody be stupid enough to shoot themselves through the neck first if trying to kill themselves ?....