Rich pleaders

[guest7363]

Patti  think it would be more appropriate if you said this thread is taking the p**s   Think the Mods are on the move I'm off

I am so sorry if i offended anyone with this thread it was not intended to take any p??s, it was intended to get a debate about the people who take the p??s out the system.

[Patti]

I am so sorry if i offended anyone with this thread it was not intended to take any p??s, it was intended to get a debate about the people who take the p??s out the system.

No way have you offended anyone Ralph.  I don't think it was anyones intention to offend anyone.  You are a gentleman.   

[susan]

Ralph you have always been one of my favourite's think that Patti is trying to steal you from me.  You could not offend if you tried my good friend

[Jane]

No way have you offended anyone Ralph.  I don't think it was anyones intention to offend anyone.  You are a gentleman.   

Well done, Patti. I was just about to say exactly that.

[lookout]

P.S.I don't know Ralph anyway.

[guest7363]

Ralph you have always been one of my favourite's think that Patti is trying to steal you from me.  You could not offend if you tried my good friend

Thanks susan and patti but i think this legal aid has gone to far. Legal aid isn’t the sort of thing people worry much about losing. Unlike schools or the NHS, it’s not a part of the welfare state many of us have had dealings with. The sort of people who use legal aid aren’t always very sympathetic: they’ve often done something wrong or foolish or both. The lawyers who represent them seem to be looking after number one. The system isn’t very old, but insiders talk about it in a combination of ancient-sounding phrases and arcane technical language. Yet legal aid deserves attention, not least because it’s one of the fastest growing areas of government expenditure, and so an irresistible target for deficit reduction.

The state spends £2.2 billion a year on lawyers to give advice to and represent people in legal cases:

[guest7363]

Thanks susan and patti but i think this legal aid has gone to far. Legal aid isn’t the sort of thing people worry much about losing. Unlike schools or the NHS, it’s not a part of the welfare state many of us have had dealings with. The sort of people who use legal aid aren’t always very sympathetic: they’ve often done something wrong or foolish or both. The lawyers who represent them seem to be looking after number one. The system isn’t very old, but insiders talk about it in a combination of ancient-sounding phrases and arcane technical language. Yet legal aid deserves attention, not least because it’s one of the fastest growing areas of government expenditure, and so an irresistible target for deficit reduction.

The state spends £2.2 billion a year on lawyers to give advice to and represent people in legal cases:

The government also plans to move the financial goalposts: at the moment, legal aid is means-tested and available only to people who are on benefits or who earn less than around £17,000 a year: i.e.

[susan]

Hi Ralph I posted on the wrong thread and apologised I would never make light of such a serious subject.  I was having a laugh about NN and her North South divide which is so funny with the things she comes out with quite the little joker but we love her

[ngb1066]

Legal aid is a vital part of our justice system and it should be strongly defended.  Over the past 20 years it has come increasingly under attack, denying justice to many. 

[Jane]

Thanks susan and patti but i think this legal aid has gone to far. Legal aid isn’t the sort of thing people worry much about losing. Unlike schools or the NHS, it’s not a part of the welfare state many of us have had dealings with. The sort of people who use legal aid aren’t always very sympathetic: they’ve often done something wrong or foolish or both. The lawyers who represent them seem to be looking after number one. The system isn’t very old, but insiders talk about it in a combination of ancient-sounding phrases and arcane technical language. Yet legal aid deserves attention, not least because it’s one of the fastest growing areas of government expenditure, and so an irresistible target for deficit reduction.

The state spends £2.2 billion a year on lawyers to give advice to and represent people in legal cases:

Wasn't legal aid given to the son of the millionaire who fell from a luxury yacht and never seen again? Maxwell???

[lookout]

Legal aid is a vital part of our justice system and it should be strongly defended.  Over the past 20 years it has come increasingly under attack, denying justice to many.

I agree there,ngb.

[ngb1066]

Wasn't legal aid given to the son of the millionaire who fell from a luxury yacht and never seen again? Maxwell???

Yes, and quite rightly so.

[Jo]

What you can get legal aid for
You can get legal aid for problems like:

being arrested, questioned or charged by the police
debt - eg if you’re visited by bailiffs
housing - eg if you’re being evicted
employment - eg unfair dismissal
family issues - eg divorce or separation
benefit payments - eg problems claiming Employment and Support Allowance
education - eg disagreeing with a special educational needs decision about your child
You may be able to get legal aid for other problems - speak to a legal adviser for more information.

What you can’t get legal aid for
You don’t usually get legal aid for:

a personal injury
a boundary dispute
libel or slander
representation at an employment tribunal
making a will (unless you’re over 70, disabled or have a disabled child)

It looks to me like you can get help for legal disputes but not civil disputes but there are advice centres who'll help you if you need help for the cases not listed and some solicitors will do some work on a pro bona rate if you ask enough of them 

[guest7363]

The government also plans to move the financial goalposts: at the moment, legal aid is means-tested and available only to people who are on benefits or who earn less than around £17,000 a year: i.e.

If you can’t get any help, you can always represent yourself or  you could just drop your case.
This is sadly what my brother had to do

[guest7363]

Legal aid is a vital part of our justice system and it should be strongly defended.  Over the past 20 years it has come increasingly under attack, denying justice to many.

I have to agree with you neil but there are people who take the micky and it is these people who will have it stopped for the people in need?