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« on: December 09, 2012, 09:50:AM »
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6 fat cat lawyers get £½MILLION each a year legal aid


Could this also be the reason our judicial system needs a complete overall? SIX fat cat lawyers raked in more than £500,000 a year each in legal aid payments,
 
They were among dozens of barristers who billed the taxpayer for six-figure sums to defend alleged terrorists, rapists and fraudsters.
 
The huge pay-outs explain why Britain’s £2.2billion legal aid bill is among the highest in the world.

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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2012, 10:36:AM »
How do they qualify for legal aid?

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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2012, 10:38:AM »
Of course there needs to be a re-shuffle of the system,Ralph. One of my family had £600 legal aid,,without having seen the lawyer,only the secretary. I'd done all the ground work,,,and there wasn't even a letter received by him,so what the charge was for,,I don't know to this day. Great,isn't it.?

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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2012, 11:00:AM »
How do they qualify for legal aid?
I cant answer that lugg because the goal posts move depending on being able to pay? My sister inlaw years back while just finishing her 3 rd job of the day was waiting at a bus stop for a bus, stood on the pavement. A car mounted the kerb and hit her and sent her 15 foot in the air she broke all her bones in the right hand side of her body from impact also broke her neck and was in hospital for some considerable time. Looked an open and shut case until the car driver claimed she had a epileptic fit? My sister inlaw who couldnt get legal aid because her and my bro was earnig to much lost the case because  it was the first epileptic fit the driver had it was classed as an act of god? Tony benn tried to help to no avail, barristers who at first were after rich pickings dropped the case ect ect. Now if she had been someone who never worked or was an illegal immigrant or a prisoner in jail she would not have got threated to take her house of her if she pursued the case. It was costing the insurance company money to fight them. Act of god my arse?

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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2012, 11:02:AM »
Goodness me,Ralph,,that's terrible.

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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2012, 11:17:AM »
I cant answer that lugg because the goal posts move depending on being able to pay? My sister inlaw years back while just finishing her 3 rd job of the day was waiting at a bus stop for a bus, stood on the pavement. A car mounted the kerb and hit her and sent her 15 foot in the air she broke all her bones in the right hand side of her body from impact also broke her neck and was in hospital for some considerable time. Looked an open and shut case until the car driver claimed she had a epileptic fit? My sister inlaw who couldnt get legal aid because her and my bro was earnig to much lost the case because  it was the first epileptic fit the driver had it was classed as an act of god? Tony benn tried to help to no avail, barristers who at first were after rich pickings dropped the case ect ect. Now if she had been someone who never worked or was an illegal immigrant or a prisoner in jail she would not have got threated to take her house of her if she pursued the case. It was costing the insurance company money to fight them. Act of god my arse?
If that was me she hit the driver would soon have another epilectic fit that's for sure.

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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2012, 11:41:AM »
If that was me she hit the driver would soon have another epilectic fit that's for sure.
It was proved lugg by the insurance company that it was the first fit she had, if it was the persons second fit there would have been a case? I went with my brother to the law firm when it first happened, they were all over us till months down the line it was probley passed to the tea lady? My brother had to give up work to look after her and the children. There are people who abuse the system a system that was set up to help people in need.

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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2012, 11:48:AM »
I cant answer that lugg because the goal posts move depending on being able to pay? My sister inlaw years back while just finishing her 3 rd job of the day was waiting at a bus stop for a bus, stood on the pavement. A car mounted the kerb and hit her and sent her 15 foot in the air she broke all her bones in the right hand side of her body from impact also broke her neck and was in hospital for some considerable time. Looked an open and shut case until the car driver claimed she had a epileptic fit? My sister inlaw who couldnt get legal aid because her and my bro was earnig to much lost the case because  it was the first epileptic fit the driver had it was classed as an act of god? Tony benn tried to help to no avail, barristers who at first were after rich pickings dropped the case ect ect. Now if she had been someone who never worked or was an illegal immigrant or a prisoner in jail she would not have got threated to take her house of her if she pursued the case. It was costing the insurance company money to fight them. Act of god my arse?

Morning Ralph

This is awful, I do hope that your sister in law had a full recovery.  The case its self must have been a difficult one. One does not expect someone stood at a bus stop to get hit with a car and, receive such horrific injuries.  Neither does anyone except that someone would have an epileptic fit for the first time whilst driving.  I must say I do NOT think that this was an act of god. 

Even though this happened a long time ago and,  the likelihood of any documents do not exist your sister in law can still make a claim through the government. I will send you details of this privately. 

2005 was an horrendous year for me. I had just left my daughters when my mobile started to ring, I'd say I was about 2 miles away. Normally I never answer my phone whilst driving, but saw that it was my daughter ringing me...I answered it.....She was hysterical and, told me my grandson had been knocked over by a car, he was 5 years old.  I arrived back at my daughters, she was holding him and crying out for someone to help her....I wont ever forget what I saw and being an ex ambulance driver I froze and could do absolutely nothing to help her or my little grandson.  The driver was a female and all I could do was stare at her and wait for the ambulance to arrive.  It took a long while for his injuries to heal and, 7 years on he still has a limp. 

No claim was ever made, because it was said at the time that the driver was not at fault and, it was my grandson's fault for running into the road having being chased by his eldest brother. 

However, the law does state that a child under 6 years old cannot be held to be responsible. There are no records held by the police regarding the incident, but I have found myself a new lawyer who is currently applying to the government for compensation. Any monies that my grandson wins and he will win, will be put into a trust fund till he reaches 21........ :) :) :) :) :)

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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2012, 11:52:AM »
I cant answer that lugg because the goal posts move depending on being able to pay? My sister inlaw years back while just finishing her 3 rd job of the day was waiting at a bus stop for a bus, stood on the pavement. A car mounted the kerb and hit her and sent her 15 foot in the air she broke all her bones in the right hand side of her body from impact also broke her neck and was in hospital for some considerable time. Looked an open and shut case until the car driver claimed she had a epileptic fit? My sister inlaw who couldnt get legal aid because her and my bro was earnig to much lost the case because  it was the first epileptic fit the driver had it was classed as an act of god? Tony benn tried to help to no avail, barristers who at first were after rich pickings dropped the case ect ect. Now if she had been someone who never worked or was an illegal immigrant or a prisoner in jail she would not have got threated to take her house of her if she pursued the case. It was costing the insurance company money to fight them. Act of god my arse?

Sorry to hear that Ralf, that's terrible!! Was the fit confirmed by a doctor? More importantly, has your sister made a full recovery?

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Re: Rich pleaders
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2012, 11:56:AM »
Rich pleaders
 
6 fat cat lawyers get £½MILLION each a year legal aid


Could this also be the reason our judicial system needs a complete overall? SIX fat cat lawyers raked in more than £500,000 a year each in legal aid payments,
 
They were among dozens of barristers who billed the taxpayer for six-figure sums to defend alleged terrorists, rapists and fraudsters.
 
The huge pay-outs explain why Britain’s £2.2billion legal aid bill is among the highest in the world.

Hi Ralph

Barristers are nearly always self-employed so some of the £500,000 will go towards the running of their chambers (place of work) staff etc.

I believe criminal work is the poorest paid and tax the highest paid.  Tax barristers can earn a fortune.  These are the guys and girls helping the likes of Amazon and Starbucks etc 'legally' dodge their tax liabilities  :)

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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2012, 11:58:AM »
Morning Ralph

This is awful, I do hope that your sister in law had a full recovery.  The case its self must have been a difficult one. One does not expect someone stood at a bus stop to get hit with a car and, receive such horrific injuries.  Neither does anyone except that someone would have an epileptic fit for the first time whilst driving.  I must say I do NOT think that this was an act of god. 

Even though this happened a long time ago and,  the likelihood of any documents do not exist your sister in law can still make a claim through the government. I will send you details of this privately. 

2005 was an horrendous year for me. I had just left my daughters when my mobile started to ring, I'd say I was about 2 miles away. Normally I never answer my phone whilst driving, but saw that it was my daughter ringing me...I answered it.....She was hysterical and, told me my grandson had been knocked over by a car, he was 5 years old.  I arrived back at my daughters, she was holding him and crying out for someone to help her....I wont ever forget what I saw and being an ex ambulance driver I froze and could do absolutely nothing to help her or my little grandson.  The driver was a female and all I could do was stare at her and wait for the ambulance to arrive.  It took a long while for his injuries to heal and, 7 years on he still has a limp. 

No claim was ever made, because it was said at the time that the driver was not at fault and, it was my grandson's fault for running into the road having being chased by his eldest brother. 

However, the law does state that a child under 6 years old cannot be held to be responsible. There are no records held by the police regarding the incident, but I have found myself a new lawyer who is currently applying to the government for compensation. Any monies that my grandson wins and he will win, will be put into a trust fund till he reaches 21........ :) :) :) :) :)
How sad that was patti really hope everything goes ok. Thanks for the advice patti but my brother has had enough of lawyers and barristers trust me i wouldnt dare go back with anything else.

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Re: Rich pleaders
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2012, 12:04:PM »
I cant answer that lugg because the goal posts move depending on being able to pay? My sister inlaw years back while just finishing her 3 rd job of the day was waiting at a bus stop for a bus, stood on the pavement. A car mounted the kerb and hit her and sent her 15 foot in the air she broke all her bones in the right hand side of her body from impact also broke her neck and was in hospital for some considerable time. Looked an open and shut case until the car driver claimed she had a epileptic fit? My sister inlaw who couldnt get legal aid because her and my bro was earnig to much lost the case because  it was the first epileptic fit the driver had it was classed as an act of god? Tony benn tried to help to no avail, barristers who at first were after rich pickings dropped the case ect ect. Now if she had been someone who never worked or was an illegal immigrant or a prisoner in jail she would not have got threated to take her house of her if she pursued the case. It was costing the insurance company money to fight them. Act of god my arse?


My father developed epilepsy after a minor stroke. I felt he should no longer drive and spoke with his doctor who told me that the chances were negligable of anyone having a fit whilst driving. He said fits are more likely to occur when a person is in a relaxed state.

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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2012, 12:05:PM »
Sorry to hear that Ralf, that's terrible!! Was the fit confirmed by a doctor? More importantly, has your sister made a full recovery?
Yes caroline the fit was confirmed by doing scans? My sister in law made a recovery but left with a lot of pain and suffers a lot to this day? Also this caused a big change for my brother? It was the scans and tests the insurance company used as a threat to take their house?

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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2012, 12:07:PM »
If that was me she hit the driver would soon have another epilectic fit that's for sure.

How about showing some respect for people who suffer from epilepsy and the massive impact this has on their lives.

It can be a very tough illness to live with.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epilepsy

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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2012, 12:10:PM »

My father developed epilepsy after a minor stroke. I felt he should no longer drive and spoke with his doctor who told me that the chances were negligable of anyone having a fit whilst driving. He said fits are more likely to occur when a person is in a relaxed state.

You cannot generalise when SEIZURES are more likely to happen as there are so many different types of epilepsy and different people have different trigger factors.

If your father developed epilepsy then you cannot drive within 12 months of having a seizure.