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Offline mike tesko

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Relatives now not so sure of Bambers guilt...
« on: November 25, 2012, 09:44:AM »
Relatives now not so sure of Bambers guilt...

Hear it from the horses mouth at the following link address:-

(1) - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-17855823
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Re: Relatives now not so sure of Bambers guilt...
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2012, 09:53:AM »
In all the years I have known Jeremy, he has never suggested or intimated that he would like some retribution in the form of violence towards any relative or prosecution witness, only that justice should be seen to be done, and where wrong doing is proven on the part of any police officer in the investigation, any relative, or prosecution witness, that all of them should be dealt with by the due process of law...

So what David Boutflour, speaks about in this video clip, is misleading and inaccurate...
« Last Edit: November 25, 2012, 09:54:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: Relatives now not so sure of Bambers guilt...
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2012, 10:02:AM »
It is simply not enough for someone to suggest Jeremy Bamber was / is guilty...

But in this particular matter - it was...
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Re: Relatives now not so sure of Bambers guilt...
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2012, 11:04:AM »
It is simply not enough for someone to suggest Jeremy Bamber was / is guilty...

But in this particular matter - it was...

and is...
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Re: Relatives now not so sure of Bambers guilt...
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2012, 11:06:AM »
Mike,I'm afraid that man in the video was very very hesitant,,,and to my mind,very unsure of Jeremys' guilt.

For someone who at first appeared adamant that Jeremy was guilty,,it would seem a far cry from how that same man feels now. There was a positive element of unsurety.

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Re: Relatives now not so sure of Bambers guilt...
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2012, 11:06:AM »
For some reason, the opposite suggestion, that he is innocent, and that he did not commit the murders, has little or no effect at all...
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Re: Relatives now not so sure of Bambers guilt...
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2012, 11:08:AM »
Mike,I'm afraid that man in the video was very very hesitant,,,and to my mind,very unsure of Jeremys' guilt.

For someone who at first appeared adamant that Jeremy was guilty,,it would seem a far cry from how that same man feels now. There was a positive element of unsurety.

I sensed that same hesitancy in his tone, and manner, as you did...
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Re: Relatives now not so sure of Bambers guilt...
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2012, 11:09:AM »
I sensed that same hesitancy in his tone, and manner, as you did...
I'm sure I saw his hair move as well? :)

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Re: Relatives now not so sure of Bambers guilt...
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2012, 11:15:AM »
I sensed that same hesitancy in his tone, and manner, as you did...


You don't splutter your way through something like that, in that manner, if you're absolutely certain.

To THINK he's guilty,just isn't enough.!

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Re: Relatives now not so sure of Bambers guilt...
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2012, 11:29:AM »

You don't splutter your way through something like that, in that manner, if you're absolutely certain.

To THINK he's guilty,just isn't enough.!

The relatives must surely now know that the silencer game is up, and that they really should be complaining to Essex police about the possibility, liklihood, that police officers at the scene stage managed the bodies of the victims during a training exercise, and that crime scene photographs relied upon at trial, were not taken until after the training exercise had concluded, and the bodies of the victims had been moved, and re-arranged by the police, not by Jeremy...
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Re: Relatives now not so sure of Bambers guilt...
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2012, 11:36:AM »
Mike, apart from the photo of Sheila you claim to have seen, where is it documented that Sheila was found without underwear?
On Ilkley Moor Baht'at.

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Re: Relatives now not so sure of Bambers guilt...
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2012, 11:36:AM »
The relatives must surely now know that the silencer game is up, and that they really should be complaining to Essex police about the possibility, liklihood, that police officers at the scene stage managed the bodies of the victims during a training exercise, and that crime scene photographs relied upon at trial, were not taken until after the training exercise had concluded, and the bodies of the victims had been moved, and re-arranged by the police, not by Jeremy...


Of course the relatives must realise that there's been a terrible cock-up,Mike. They've probably mulled it over for years now knowing this. The " retribution " thing is just absolutely ludicrous,and was said on the back of " he could have ",to justify his feeble interview.

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Re: Relatives now not so sure of Bambers guilt...
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2012, 11:44:AM »
Mike, apart from the photo of Sheila you claim to have seen, where is it documented that Sheila was found without underwear?

Mike?
On Ilkley Moor Baht'at.

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Re: Relatives now not so sure of Bambers guilt...
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2012, 01:36:PM »
The evidence is there to show that the bodies had been manipulated.All three adults.Im sure that the children were left alone.........thankfully!
I really cannot fathom how Nevill would have ended up in the position that he did.The only conclusion that, I myself, can draw is that he was indeed toppled from where he was slumped in a chair when the raid team entered,and that rigor mortis disallowed the manipulation of Nevills body back into the chair,hence the position they put him in.
Junes body (according to the officer who stood over her for ages)ended up being the wrong way round by the time the crime scene pictures were taken.
And we can see for ourselves from the crime scene pictures,how Sheilas body was manipulated.
So imo,the crime scene photos do not depict the original scenario that met the raid team upon entry.
Its about time EP gave up the truth of what really occurred that fateful morning.

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Re: Relatives now not so sure of Bambers guilt...
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2012, 01:40:PM »
Mike, apart from the photo of Sheila you claim to have seen, where is it documented that Sheila was found without underwear?
I've brought this question up before and found it strange that the opposition have always accepted this without question. Although I stated that its source was Mike himself. As far as I know there is no statement that says this? Yet still most of those of the guilty position accept it as truth.