How to prove Jeremy was framed for the murders, with dodgy silencer evidence...

[mike tesko]

Since the "U" shaped scratch mark visible at the time the 12th September 1985, photograph was taken, but not visible in earlier photographs, it suggests that this additional mark was made by use of the silencer, since that mark would only produce one layer of crushed varnish and paint which is what was found ingrained into the knurl of the silencrr...
[/quotIt is therefore an established fact that the silencer did not and could not have made all three scratch marks, and that something else made the other two - this is interesting because DS Davidon told COLP in his 1991 interview that some paint had been found on the end of a guns barrel, and that DI Cook had taken a paint sample (RC/1) from the aga for comparison, so based on that / thisat least one of the other set of marks on the aga have been made by the end of a guns barrel...

[mike tesko]

Since the "U" shaped scratch mark visible at the time the 12th September 1985, photograph was taken, but not visible in earlier photographs, it suggests that this additional mark was made by use of the silencer, since that mark would only produce one layer of crushed varnish and paint which is what was found ingrained into the knurl of the silencrr...
[/quotIt is therefore an established fact that the silencer did not and could not have made all three scratch marks, and that something else made the other two - this is interesting because DS Davidon told COLP in his 1991 interview that some paint had been found on the end of a guns barrel, and that DI Cook had taken a paint sample (RC/1) from the aga for comparison, so based on that / thisat least one of the other set of marks on the aga have been made by the end of a guns barrel...

imagine if two layers of crushed varnish and paint had been found on the end of the guns barrel?

Game over...

[mike tesko]

Read and look - there was no "U" shaped scratch mark on the vertical face of the kitchen aga when PC Bird took a photograph of the kitchen once the house cleaner had set the kitchen:-

[Steve_uk]

Read and look - there was no "U" shaped scratch mark on the vertical face of the kitchen aga when PC Bird took a photograph of the kitchen once the house cleaner had set the kitchen:-

Given that the dates of the photographic evidence you furnish are correct this is not a proof of Jeremy's innocence,merely that there is a possibility that someone made scratch marks on the mantlepiece after the murders had taken place.

[lookout]

Given that the dates of the photographic evidence you furnish are correct this is not a proof of Jeremy's innocence,merely that there is a possibility that someone made scratch marks on the mantlepiece after the murders had taken place.

Steve,it still went against Jeremy whoever did them,because he got the blame,didn't he ? Or rather the " made-up " struggle that was supposed to have taken place.

[mike tesko]

Read and look - there was no "U" shaped scratch mark on the vertical face of the kitchen aga when PC Bird took a photograph of the kitchen once the house cleaner had set the kitchen:-

This is the photograph which PC Bird took on 12th September 1985:-

[Steve_uk]

Steve,it still went against Jeremy whoever did them,because he got the blame,didn't he ? Or rather the " made-up " struggle that was supposed to have taken place.

With Nevill's injuries it's only common sense that there must have been some kind of struggle. You're also forgetting the smashed ceiling light fitting.

[mike tesko]

Given that the dates of the photographic evidence you furnish are correct this is not a proof of Jeremy's innocence,merely that there is a possibility that someone made scratch marks on the mantlepiece after the murders had taken place.

I ain't finished yet...

Police action report (15/20) David Boutflour contacts the police with a telephone message stating that he has found a silencer with blood on it...

How utterly strange that Boutflour is contacting the police saying he found a silencer in the gun cupboard on 11th September 1985, when the silencer being spoken about had already been sent to the lab' (on 30th August 1985) in the guise of exhibit reference DB/1, and on the very day that the ballistic expert, Malcolm Fletcher is dismantling the said silencer at the lab' (11th September 1985) and finding the crucial flake of blood (Sheila's blood by all accounts), Boutflour is reporting the find of the silencer which had got blood on it...

It's a bit late in the day to be reporting the find of the silencer (11th September 1985), a month after you supposedly found it (10th August 1985), don't you think? Even more bizarre that on the very same date (11th September 1985) that his sister Ann Eaton is handing over a silencer to DC Oakey...

[lookout]

With Nevill's injuries it's only common sense that there must have been some kind of struggle. You're also forgetting the smashed ceiling light fitting.

The smashed ceiling light would obviously have been Sheila as she flailed about using a rifle in such a way, as she fought her father off from gaining control of it.
Don't forget that Sheila was on the tall side too,and the rifle would have added more height.

[mike tesko]

I ain't finished yet...

Police action report (15/20) David Boutflour contacts the police with a telephone message stating that he has found a silencer with blood on it...

How utterly strange that Boutflour is contacting the police saying he found a silencer in the gun cupboard on 11th September 1985, when the silencer being spoken about had already been sent to the lab' (on 30th August 1985) in the guise of exhibit reference DB/1, and on the very day that the ballistic expert, Malcolm Fletcher is dismantling the said silencer at the lab' (11th September 1985) and finding the crucial flake of blood (Sheila's blood by all accounts), Boutflour is reporting the find of the silencer which had got blood on it...

It's a bit late in the day to be reporting the find of the silencer (11th September 1985), a month after you supposedly found it (10th August 1985), don't you think? Even more bizarre that on the very same date (11th September 1985) that his sister Ann Eaton is handing over a silencer to DC Oakey...

So, silencer which got sent to the lab' on 13th August 1985, had an exhibit label which had only got DI Cooks signature upon it, so how come the lab' accepted such an exhibit purporting to have been found by David Boutflour, yet on the day it gets sent to the lab' it doesn't have an exhibit label attached to it bearing Boutflours signature on 13th August 1985, would the lab' accept such an exhibit that is not properly labelled and packaged? Worse still, by the time the same silencer gets sent back to the lab' on 30th August 1985, under the guise of exhibit DB/1, there can still not be any signed exhibit label bearing the signatures of David Boutflour or Ann Eaton, because David Boutflour has not yet reported finding the silencer to the police, and he would not do so until 11th September 1985. Furthermore, his sisters signature (Ann eaton) could not be on the silencer sent to the lab' on 30th August 1985, because she did not hand the silerncer in question to DC Oakey until 11th September 1985...

A silencer sent to the lab' on two other occasions (13th August 1985 and 30th August 1985) before 11th September 1985, when David Boutflour contacts the police to tell them that a silencer has been found with blood on it, and his sister Ann Eaton hands over a silencer to DC Oakey - so we can correctly assume that the silencer found by David Boutflour, as per his message passed to the police on 11th September 1985, was the very same silencer which his sister Ann Eaton handed over to DC Oakey that same day, and the silencer which is already at the lab' (DB/1) could not be the silencer which had Sheila's blood inside it, and be the Bamber owned silencer that David Boutflour found, and his sister handed over to DC Oakey, on 11th September 1985...

[mike tesko]

Why is David Boutflour contacting the police on 11th September 1985, and leaving a message saying that he has found a silencer with blood on it, when another silencer is already at the lab' bearing an exhibit mark of DB'1, which has been at the lab' from as long ago as 30th August 1985?

[mike tesko]

Why is David Boutflour contacting the police on 11th September 1985, and leaving a message saying that he has found a silencer with blood on it, when another silencer is already at the lab' bearing an exhibit mark of DB'1, which has been at the lab' from as long ago as 30th August 1985?

Why is his sister, Ann Eaton, handing over a silencer to DC Oakey on 11th September 1985, if the silencer in question was already handed over to DS Jones on 12th August 1985, and which is at the time Ann Eaton handed over the silencer to DC Oakey on 11th September 1985, already at the lab' and had been there from 30th August 1985?

[mike tesko]

Perhaps the contents of this official police record / lab' submission form will help to resolve what has been going on in the case, with these silencers which police (2nd investigation) and relatives merged into one:-

[mike tesko]

How can this silencer be sent to the lab' on 25th September 1985, to be checked for blood and fibers, if it is already at the lab' and has been there since 30th August 1985?

[Patti]

Hi Mike, I know people in the past have said that the date is a mistake, but the next message that follows is also September.....So if the first message was a mistake, you wouldn't likely to expect the same in the following messages....I hope I make sense there?