Entries in police HQ Armories register - confirms existence of three silencers..

[mike tesko]

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[-Harters-]

Does it? How? 

[mike tesko]

Does it? How? 

Sorry, forgot to upload fourth page this morning...

Police records clearly show that one of the three silencers was retained, and that two others were returned ( maliking three silencers in police possession in connection with this investigation, not one. Three silencers, three different exhibit referenced - SBJ/1, DB/1 and DRB/1, three different submission dates to lab', 13th August 1985, 30th August 1985, and 25th September 1985...

If not...

What were the exhibit references for the two silencers handed back to the relatives?

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Sorry, forgot to upload fourth page this morning...

Police records clearly show that one of the three silencers was retained, and that two others were returned ( maliking three silencers in police possession in connection with this investigation, not one. Three silencers, three different exhibit referenced - SBJ/1, DB/1 and DRB/1, three different submission dates to lab', 13th August 1985, 30th August 1985, and 25th September 1985...

If not...

What were the exhibit references for the two silencers handed back to the relatives?

Yes we already know that though, Ralphs silencer which was retained and Robert and Davids silencer which were obtained during the trial, not used as exhibits and returned to David following the trial, complete with yellow sticker.

[mike tesko]

Yes we already know that though, Ralphs silencer which was retained and Robert and Davids silencer which were obtained during the trial, not used as exhibits and returned to David following the trial, complete with yellow sticker.

First of all, if we proceed on the basis that there was only one parker hale silencer, and this was the Bamber silencer found in the gun cupboard by David on 10 th August, but not handed over to the police by Peter Eaton to the police until evening of 12th August 1985, this itself presents major problems, in that on 7th August 1985, DS Stan Jones took possession of four exhibits from the scene, bearing exhibit referencess, SBJ/4, SBJ/3, SBJ/2 and a silencer, SBJ/1. Furthermore, DCI Jones, and DS Jones visited Jeremy at his cottage, 9 Head Street, Goldhanger, on 9th August (the day before Boutflour found the Bambet silencer in the gin cupboard) and spoke to Jeremy about whether or not the silencer was fitted to the anshult rifles barrel on the evening before the shootings? Now, if there was only one silencer, in police possession after Peter Eaton handed over the Bamber silencer from the cupboard on 12th August, how could Ds Jones take possession of it from the scene six days previously, and speak to Jeremy about the silencer on the day before Boutflour found it in the gun cupboard, if there was only one silencer known about after 10th August 1985?

When Peter Eaton handed over a silencer to the police (if he did) then as of 12th August, there should be two silencers in police pissession, the one DS Jones (SBJ/1) took possession of from the scene on 7th August, and whicj he and DCI Jones had spoken to Jeremy about on 9th August, and the silencer Peter Eaton handed to the police on 12th August 1985?

If the police took two additional silencers from the Boutflours during the trial, to whom did the two identical looking  parker hale silencers already in police possession, belong to? Since both silencers could not be the Bamber silencer, do you agree? Further.ore, if the blood of Sheila, and paint from the aga were present in or on the same silencer, these could not have been present on noth silencers which found thier way into police possession by 7th and 12th August 1985...

[-Harters-]

First of all, if we proceed on the basis that there was only one parker hale silencer, and this was the Bamber silencer found in the gun cupboard by David on 10 th August, but not handed over to the police by Peter Eaton to the police until evening of 12th August 1985, this itself presents major problems, in that on 7th August 1985, DS Stan Jones took possession of four exhibits from the scene, bearing exhibit referencess, SBJ/4, SBJ/3, SBJ/2 and a silencer, SBJ/1.

Well that's clearly not true and you are attempting to mislead people.

SBJ/2 was a photograph of the kitchen telephone.
SBJ/3 was a photograph of the downstairs toilet.
SBJ/4 was the page of a statement shown to Bamber.

In the first instance I'm not convinced that these exhibits were taken on the 7/08/85, but am happy to be shown otherwise.

SBJ/1 was the sound moderator collected from Peter on the 12th, which later changed to DB/1 to refer to David Boutflour who was the person who actually found the sound moderator, this was later changed to DRB/1 due to a clash of initials with PC Bird (the photographer).

If SBJ/2, 3 and 4 were boxes of ammunition a rifle and a sight, then I'd see what you were getting at but silencer, photo, photo, statement doesn't follow. There is either another SBJ/1 or SBJ/2, 3, and 4 were not recorded until after the silencer became SBJ/1.

What else was DB/1? A photograph from Bird by any chance?

[-Harters-]

Plus let's not forget that Mike has previously claimed that SBJ/1 was found on the 8/8/85:

Exhibit, SBJ/1 (Silencer) was found on 08/08/85, before find of other silencer..

Don't let Essex police and the relatives pull the wool over your eyes - Essex police took possession of the other silencer (SBJ/1), on 8th August 19875, some days before David Boutflour allegedly found it in the gun cupboard at whf on 10th August 1985. DS "Stan" Jones, took possession of other exhibits from the scene on the same day (8th August 1985), namely SBJ/2, SBJ/3 and SBJ/4...

How could silencer (SBJ/1) be the same silencer which David Boutflour finds in the gun cupboard at whf on 10th August 1985, if exhibits SBJ/2,3and 4 were found before 10th August 1985?

But SBJ/2, SBJ/3 and SBJ/4 were found on the 7th? 

Nothing like consistency to force your deception home. 

[mike tesko]

So...

DCI 'TAFF' JONES and DS Stan Jones go to see Jerrmy at his cottage on the aftrrnoon of 9th August 1985, to question him about a silencer they knew nothing about until evening of 12th August 1985...

And then you woke up...

[mike tesko]

Now heres a funny thing...

Robett and David Boutflour couldn't attend the police station enough and both madr numerous wiyness ststrments providing all manner of false allegations about Jeremy. There wasn't anything that this pair didn't do, or wouldn't say about what they thought Jeremy had done, yet neither of them made a witness statemnt mentioning the date and the reason why Essex police took thier parker hale silencers from them?

Funnily enough...

No police officer makes a y disclosed witness statement where it mentions the taking of the two additional parker hale silencers from the Boutflours...

Now there must have been a good reason why the police took them, anf whatevrr that reason was Bamber and his legal team and the jury ought really to have been told about this, because it should be obvious to anyone that the police thought the relatives were trying to frame Jeremy and that the blood and paint evidence was found inside and upon a silencer belonging to one or other Boutflour, and that the silencer handed in by the relatives was not the Bambrr silencer they found in the gub cupboard at all, it was one belonging to them, and they had swirched it before they got Peter Eaton to hand it over on 12th August 1985...

This was why police seized the additional two identical looking parker hale silencers from the Boutflour clan...

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So...

DCI 'TAFF' JONES and DS Stan Jones go to see Jerrmy at his cottage on the aftrrnoon of 9th August 1985, to question him about a silencer they knew nothing about until evening of 12th August 1985...

And then you woke up...

2+2=5 again?

Who says that they didn't know that the rifle should have a sight and a silencer, judging by the fact that three other .22 rifles owned by other family members all had a silencer and a sight, is it not more likely that they were questioning simply to find out if one existed for the Anshutz rifle?

Let's do this properly and show us the details of this questioning about a silencer on 9/8/85.

[mike tesko]

Police took  sample of Robert Boutflours blood because they suspected he had contaminated his own silencer with his own blood, and that between themselves, the contaminated silencer that belonged to Robert Boutflour, was substituted with the Bamber one, and presented to the police as though it was the Bamber one on 12th August...

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Police took  sample of Robert Boutflours blood because they suspected he had contaminated his own silencer with his own blood, and that between themselves, the contaminated silencer that belonged to Robert Boutflour, was substituted with the Bamber one, and presented to the police as though it was the Bamber one on 12th August...

And the proof of that is what exactly? 

Why are the police trying to take blood samples to discover their own conspiracy?

[mike tesko]

The conspiracy to frame Jeremy is easily exposed, because the relatives put the blood/paint in/on a 17 baffled parker hale silencer which they presented to the police as the Bamber silencer, when it was one belonging to themselves - the Bamber silencer only had 15 baffle plates...

It should now be obvious what the relatives did...

[-Harters-]

The conspiracy to framr Jrremy is easoly exposed, because the relatives put the blood/paint in/on a 17 baffled parker hale silencer which they presented to the police as the Bamber silencer, when it was one belonging to themselves - the Bamber silencer only had 15 baffle plates...

It should niw be obvious what the relatives did...

What I can't work out is whether you truly believe these things, or whether you know full well that it's all a load of rubbish and simply trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes. 

[mike tesko]

The fact of the matter is that paint could not be ingrained into the knurled end cap of the silencer handed to police by Peter Eaton, on 13th August 1985, because the additional marks were not made on the aga surround until 12th September, 1985...