The Bamber Killings / French Alp Killings - some comparrisons

[gringo]

I see no comparisons. 

What ! so you're saying you see no comparisons Mat ? 

[guest154]

Let's not take it too far... on every topic.

[Patti]

Hi Patti  you always reply to my posts and you could not be rude if you tried.  I was just looking to find out if my assumptions were indeed right or off the wall.  It has now been confirmed by the most prominent members of the forum that indeed I could be right.  Whoopee

Awwww bless you! It's good to talk! Makes the world a happier place to be. I always try an answer Lookout, but she buggers off.....Might be watching Home and Away...or what ever it is called...

Have you seen the Postman Knocks Twice? hahahaha 

[Patti]

Hello pattiooooooo  Hope there's some lively debate tonight 

Patio....hahahahahahaha No one walks on me...Gringio...Ha! Hope so...Off topic maybe or on? 

[Jane]

Hi lookout  How are you today.  With regard to the shootings in the French Alps and WHF I see no comparison whatsoever to the shootings.  I know nothing at all about guns but I would have thought a person who could handle a gun would not have had to pump the amount of bullets into the victims as was the case at WHF.  To me it seems like somebody totally out of control with a gun and just going berserk.  Pardon my ignorance on this matter as I know it is very sensitive but wondered if I am missing something here with respect.

No ignorance to be pardoned for Susan. As far as I'm concerned the two incidents have as much similarity as cabbage and icecream..........unless I too am missing something!!!

[susan]

Hi Patti yes lookout watches Home & Away.  My postie does not knock once throws the mail then a cloud of dust down the drive he thinks I'm the Bucket woman come up from England

[Patti]

No ignorance to be pardoned for Susan. As far as I'm concerned the two incidents have as much similarity as cabbage and icecream..........unless I too am missing something!!!

April 

I can't remember if I owe you a PM or not, if I do then I am sorry...I had a lot on last week. 

I've been told to stop these smilies...it annoys some people Yipee!!!! 

[lookout]

Hi lookout  How are you today.  With regard to the shootings in the French Alps and WHF I see no comparison whatsoever to the shootings.  I know nothing at all about guns but I would have thought a person who could handle a gun would not have had to pump the amount of bullets into the victims as was the case at WHF.  To me it seems like somebody totally out of control with a gun and just going berserk.  Pardon my ignorance on this matter as I know it is very sensitive but wondered if I am missing something here with respect.

Hi Susan,sorry for the delay.As soon as I go to write something the phone rings,,then the doorbell goes,so I've now just finished answering e-mails.
The similarity that I mainly see is the fact that both were businessmen,both had a government background,and both had something that somebody else wanted.
Maybe too,is the fact that it was a lone shooting in both cases.The French shooting was a contract killing,but the WHF massacre was a frenzied one.
No doubt some bright spark will come along and snap at me like an alligator,hahahaha.
Other than that,I'm okay,hope you are.

[Jane]

Hi Patti  I am well as I hope you are.  I am being childish as I don't get replies to my posts I will have to try harder.  The postie is off work suffering from stress

Susan, your posts are NO less valuable than anybody elses. Try some massage on poor postie, it may help his stress levels

[lookout]

Awwww bless you! It's good to talk! Makes the world a happier place to be. I always try an answer Lookout, but she buggers off.....Might be watching Home and Away...or what ever it is called...

Have you seen the Postman Knocks Twice? hahahaha 

Aww,hi Patti,I wasn't ignoring you. Read Susans' post to save me repeating myself. Home and Away is at 6.30 on fiver.

[susan]

Hi april

think my postie may have BO that is why he runs away from me

[Patti]

Aww,hi Patti,I wasn't ignoring you. Read Susans' post to save me repeating myself. Home and Away is at 6.30 on fiver.

 I know you wasn't Lookout, It's normally me that buggers off into a world of my own...lololol Can't ebleive that programme is still running..

[Jane]

Hi april

think my postie may have BO that is why he runs away from me

Eeeeew, Susan!!!  Give him a hose down!!!!

[lookout]

I know you wasn't Lookout, It's normally me that buggers off into a world of my own...lololol Can't ebleive that programme is still running..

Oh yes,it's still running,and we're about 6 months behind Oz,so it'll be running for a while yet. I told g/daughter to go along there and ask for a part in it,even if it's an extra.

[Nickos]

Thank you for opening this debate...Nikos.

Here are my thoughts.

It is still not sure who the target was....the cyclist or the family?

Two guns shots to the head suggests a hit shooter....but who ever it was did not kill the children, why? 

They were murdered in a remote area...Could they have been followed or did they stumble across something?

If it was a hit then the said family must have been followed or their destination known?

Further down the hill the place was busy with people.....They need to come forward?

An unknown cyclist found them but wants to remain anonymous, why?

It's not known how many shooters there were at the moment....

Also, I don;t think this has any baring on the Bamber case at all....Sorry! 

Hi Patti,

Thanks at least for having a go - and I can see why the general commentary goes against any comparison, but it was my highlighted bits that stuck out to me when reading the article

...one gunman

...25 spent bullets

...speculation there was more than one attacker

...single weapon used

...four victims.. shot twice in the head.

...a silencer was probably used

...the fact only one gun was used meant the "cold and calculating" killer had an "extremely high level of training".

Add all the above up and it looks like a single male killer (imo the same as whf) - and I can see why JM believed a mercenary killing at whf - due to the high level of competency needed to kill this way.