Jeremy Bamber's story - NOTW deal

[Caroline R]

But he was killed in the kitchen. The panic button was right there, perhaps even next to him.

Unless someone can say exactly where it was, if it was working and the biggy - what was going on in Neville's head at the time - it's a question (unfortunately) no one can answer. On the other hand, perhaps he did press it and for whatever reason, it didn't work OR maybe it did and it is simply something else buried under evidence yet unseen.

[Caroline R]

I'm not sure but I seem to recall the panic button was connected and, had something to do with the phone...

I think both Alfie and Caroline are cute....btw! 

Aww shucks!!

[Patti]

Patti  I seem to think a connection between the panic button and the phone existed but cannot remember what it was but I know somebody who will know and her name begins with a B

I'll take a look to see If I can find anything.......MS B wont look lolol 

[Caroline R]

I'll take a look to see If I can find anything.......MS B wont look lolol 

There was a discussion a few months back about the PB but I don't think it was ever proven that there was one - 'working' that is!

[susan]

Hi Caroline  quite recently Mr. Hartley Jam who knows WHF very well told us the panic button is still in the kitchen and as far as I know still works vidvic would know when he comes on if it is still working.

[Jane]

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY.

Caroline, that hairy boy of yours is just gorgeous. Re the PB. It may still be in situ, but I have my doubts that it's still connected. The family it was put in place to protect is no longer in need of that protection so I imagine the connection with the police station would be severed. Don't believe it was ever clarified re the reason for it's installation??

[Caroline R]

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY.

Caroline, that hairy boy of yours is just gorgeous. Re the PB. It may still be in situ, but I have my doubts that it's still connected. The family it was put in place to protect is no longer in need of that protection so I imagine the connection with the police station would be severed. Don't believe it was ever clarified re the reason for it's installation??

Thanks April and yes, he is and the dogs not bad either!  .

I was also thinking that a PB from 1985 would be somewhat out of date now?

[Steve_uk]

But he was killed in the kitchen. The panic button was right there, perhaps even next to him.

Yes,one explanation being that as Ralph(Nevill) ran downstairs under attack from Jeremy he reached neither panic alarm nor telephone. He rested his bloodied left hand on the kitchen worktop yet was met with a further hail of bullets from Jeremy in that area,hence the large amount of blood found deposited on the floor there.

[lookout]

Yes,one explanation being that as Ralph(Nevill) ran downstairs under attack from Jeremy he reached neither panic alarm nor telephone. He rested his bloodied left hand on the kitchen worktop yet was met with a further hail of bullets from Jeremy in that area,hence the large amount of blood found deposited on the floor there.

Correction,Steve,,,Sheila made her way downstairs behind her father, as she prodded the nozzle of the rifle to the back of his neck, like a cattle prod. Hence the " unexplained " markings.

[lookout]

Correction,Steve,,,Sheila made her way downstairs behind her father, as she prodded the nozzle of the rifle to the back of his neck, like a cattle prod. Hence the " unexplained " markings.

Or should that be muzzle.?

[Steve_uk]

Correction,Steve,,,Sheila made her way downstairs behind her father, as she prodded the nozzle of the rifle to the back of his neck, like a cattle prod. Hence the " unexplained " markings.

I don't see this scenario-firstly Nevill's primary concern would be for the safety of the twins ,secondly June would already have been shot,yet Nevill himself would have been fairly robust at this stage,yet no struggle on the landing,only in the kitchen,thirdly the burns speak of vindictiveness,as do the crimes in general. How about Jeremy heating up the rifle barrel in the Aga,using the range to burn some of his bloodstained clothing,then branding Nevill to show just who was now boss?

[lookout]

I don't see this scenario-firstly Nevill's primary concern would be for the safety of the twins ,secondly June would already have been shot,yet Nevill himself would have been fairly robust at this stage,yet no struggle on the landing,only in the kitchen,thirdly the burns speak of vindictiveness,as do the crimes in general. How about Jeremy heating up the rifle barrel in the Aga,using the range to burn some of his bloodstained clothing,then branding Nevill to show just who was now boss?

There'd have been no need/no time to have heated the rifle butt on the Aga. No need because of the nature of the shootings,which were frenzied and would have created a certain amount of heat on the butt anyway. No time because in between Sheilas' outbursts,it would soon have been showing dawn breaking,and schizophrenics are like vampires when it comes to daylight,as they spend most evenings staying awake. Sheila was a very bad sleeper,and usually kicked off at 2,to 2.30am,according to the neighbours who lived in Maida Vale,,and who'd experienced her screaming loudly in the early hours.

[lookout]

No clothing would have been found in the AGA,not even the remnants or ash to indicate that anything had been burned.
Anyway,,why would Jeremy feel the need to burn his clothes,especially as he was well-covered in a wet-suit.?

[susan]

Hi lookout  I mentioned months ago that maybe Sheila had burned her blood stained clothes in the Aga and now that steve thinks this could be credible for Jeremy to have done this same could have applied to Sheila.  We did discuss as well that Sheila smoked large cigars (no I don't know the brand) but we wondered if it was possible for a lit cigar to make the marks.  What do you think lookout.

[Steve_uk]

There'd have been no need/no time to have heated the rifle butt on the Aga. No need because of the nature of the shootings,which were frenzied and would have created a certain amount of heat on the butt anyway. No time because in between Sheilas' outbursts,it would soon have been showing dawn breaking,and schizophrenics are like vampires when it comes to daylight,as they spend most evenings staying awake. Sheila was a very bad sleeper,and usually kicked off at 2,to 2.30am,according to the neighbours who lived in Maida Vale,,and who'd experienced her screaming loudly in the early hours.

Yes she screamed,but had she done so at White House Farm the twins would have woken up. She screamed at Maida Vale and banged her head and fists against the wall,but never once did she take a kitchen knife and threaten any other person. It would be Nevill on the telephone who would calm her down,or on occasion appear in person,but not once would he consider calling for Jeremy's assistance,as Jeremy was another cause for concern.