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Offline lookout

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Re: Jeremy Bamber's story - NOTW deal
« Reply #225 on: September 27, 2012, 07:58:PM »
Just noticed the date, in 2 days it will be 27 years since JB was arrested!

Yes,it is indeed,Caroline. Poor blighter. I bet he's recorded every day since,,which is more than I can remember over these years. It hasn't felt like 27 years to me,,but I bet it has to Jeremy.

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« Reply #226 on: September 28, 2012, 02:37:AM »

Caroline hi. That my depend on the nature of the threat and if Nevill felt it appropriate to share it's nature with Jeremy, who, if we accept Steve's opinion, he didn't trust. However, if it was serious enough for a panic alarm to be installed I can't see how Jeremy didn't know.

That being the case, if JB were planning to kill the family, surely making it look as though the threats had come to fruition would have been a much better plan. No need for the confusion of the phone calls, just wait for the scene to be discovered. Also if a panic alarm was fitted I wonder why no one used it?

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« Reply #227 on: September 28, 2012, 10:19:AM »
That being the case, if JB were planning to kill the family, surely making it look as though the threats had come to fruition would have been a much better plan. No need for the confusion of the phone calls, just wait for the scene to be discovered. Also if a panic alarm was fitted I wonder why no one used it?

Hi Caroline,,my guess is the reason why Neville didn't use the panic alarm is because it was Sheila he was dealing with,so he thought he could overcome that,until she grabbed the rifle,of course,in which case,Neville never stood a chance.
You can bet your life,given the " hearsay " that was supposedly said to be believed, by Jeremy,,,that Neville wouldn't have hesitated using the alarm if he'd felt in any danger.
The same if it had been a stranger ( the infamous " hitman " ),a chance burglary,or any stranger,then Neville would have used the alarm.

To me,there's a reason for the alarm to have been fitted,latterly. Why not years prior.? It was a more or less an isolated place housing a middle-aged/elderly couple. I wonder what the real reason was to have suddenly decided.?

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« Reply #228 on: September 28, 2012, 10:35:AM »
Morning lookout  hope you are well.  I have often wondered why Ralph did not use the panic button it was I believe fitted in the kitchen if he felt his life was in danger why not just hit the button.  If Jeremy was making it up about the phone calls why bother implicating himself by saying this he could have carried out the murders left the premises making sure he left no evidence to implicate himself and gone home to bed and waited.  Very confusing indeed.

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« Reply #229 on: September 28, 2012, 10:45:AM »
Morning lookout  hope you are well.  I have often wondered why Ralph did not use the panic button it was I believe fitted in the kitchen if he felt his life was in danger why not just hit the button.  If Jeremy was making it up about the phone calls why bother implicating himself by saying this he could have carried out the murders left the premises making sure he left no evidence to implicate himself and gone home to bed and waited.  Very confusing indeed.

Hi Susan.Yes,I am well,thankyou,hope you are too.


If your daughter was staying with you,the last thing that you'd ever think about would be the fact that anyone was in any danger.
Guns around for protection,a panic alarm for instant access to the police station,two or three telephones,a couple of dogs kept outside,what more would anyone want,to feel safe.?

Instead,nobody entered the house,as the killer was already in-situ. A father would hardly hit the panic button if his daughter was ranting,but as I'd mentioned,once Sheila had hold of a rifle,there'd have been no reasoning with her,,and this,to my mind,is what happened.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber's story - NOTW deal
« Reply #230 on: September 28, 2012, 01:39:PM »
clearly ralph never got a chance to hit the panic button.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber's story - NOTW deal
« Reply #231 on: October 01, 2012, 12:00:AM »
In a house that size would there only be one panic button, I would have thought there would have been more than one?  Where was the panic button situated?

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« Reply #232 on: October 01, 2012, 07:30:AM »
Morning OnceSaid  The panic button was located in the kitchen and as far as I'm aware the only one.

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« Reply #233 on: October 01, 2012, 09:58:AM »
Morning OnceSaid  The panic button was located in the kitchen and as far as I'm aware the only one.
Why did not Nevill press it then? Why would he choose rather to phone JB than first press the panic button?

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« Reply #234 on: October 01, 2012, 10:00:AM »
Lugg maybe Ralph did not realise what danger he was in till it was too late.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber's story - NOTW deal
« Reply #235 on: October 01, 2012, 11:34:AM »
Lugg maybe Ralph did not realise what danger he was in till it was too late.

Morning Susan,

Exactly, no one knows what the situation was at the time of the phone call - it has been said many times, but perhaps Neville was more concerned for Sheila's safety and didn't want the authorities involved. Previously Sheila was taken into psychiatric care after the episode at her flat and had only been home a few months. Perhaps Neville wanted to avoid calling police thinking he and Jeremy might be able to calm her down - official intervention might have meant Sheila being taken back to hospital and could have had consequences for her as a mother to the twins. They were also the kind of people that liked to keep their business private and as a magistrate he wouldn't want the gossip!

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« Reply #236 on: October 01, 2012, 12:33:PM »
Morning Susan,

Exactly, no one knows what the situation was at the time of the phone call - it has been said many times, but perhaps Neville was more concerned for Sheila's safety and didn't want the authorities involved. Previously Sheila was taken into psychiatric care after the episode at her flat and had only been home a few months. Perhaps Neville wanted to avoid calling police thinking he and Jeremy might be able to calm her down - official intervention might have meant Sheila being taken back to hospital and could have had consequences for her as a mother to the twins. They were also the kind of people that liked to keep their business private and as a magistrate he wouldn't want the gossip!
But he was killed in the kitchen. The panic button was right there, perhaps even next to him.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber's story - NOTW deal
« Reply #237 on: October 01, 2012, 01:16:PM »
Hi Caroline  love the new picture of you and Alfie what a looker (alfie I mean) just kidding both of you.  With regard the panic button I can only think that who ever had the gun Ralph knew the person and would not think his life was in danger so he would not think it was necessary to hit the panic button.  Off for my daily caffeine as I have just completed a long walk and need something :)

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Re: Jeremy Bamber's story - NOTW deal
« Reply #238 on: October 01, 2012, 01:31:PM »
Hi Caroline  love the new picture of you and Alfie what a looker (alfie I mean) just kidding both of you.  With regard the panic button I can only think that who ever had the gun Ralph knew the person and would not think his life was in danger so he would not think it was necessary to hit the panic button.  Off for my daily caffeine as I have just completed a long walk and need something :)

I'm not sure but I seem to recall the panic button was connected and, had something to do with the phone...

I think both Alfie and Caroline are cute....btw!  :) :) :) :)

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Re: Jeremy Bamber's story - NOTW deal
« Reply #239 on: October 01, 2012, 01:39:PM »
Patti  I seem to think a connection between the panic button and the phone existed but cannot remember what it was but I know somebody who will know and her name begins with a B :)