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Re: Hedge or Wall?
« Reply #45 on: September 08, 2012, 12:20:PM »
Bews did say in one of his interviews that trick of light was from the window at the top right side. Which would make it Sheilas bedroom if he was behind a hedge, or the box room if he was behind a wall.

This is the confusion Hartley...Yes the top right hand side is Sheila's room, which is the front of the house.....yet JB says it was the main bedroom window.....

Bews says he was at the back of the house, no lights coming out of the building. He also says he was not close to the building....

View this it is 3 minutes on....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EDp_tqUysI
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Re: Hedge or Wall?
« Reply #46 on: September 08, 2012, 12:22:PM »
This is the confusion Hartley...Yes the top right hand side is Sheila's room.....yet JB says it was the main bedroom window.....

Bews says he was at the back of the house, no lights coming out of the building. He also says he was not close to the building....

View this it is 3 minutes on....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EDp_tqUysI

Yeah, that's what I said, didn't I?

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Re: Hedge or Wall?
« Reply #47 on: September 08, 2012, 12:27:PM »
I agree.
Quote from: Patti on Today at 12:02 PM
Well this just confirms my theory that it was the box room.....


I agree.

You know where I am coming from with this Bridget don't you....

If Bews says the house was in darkness....then who put the lights on?

Kitchen, landing, upstairs bathroom lights were all on....including the main bedroom.

Right that is me done....must get work done.... :) :) :) :)

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« Reply #48 on: September 08, 2012, 12:35:PM »
You know where I am coming from with this Bridget don't you....

If Bews says the house was in darkness....then who put the lights on?

Kitchen, landing, upstairs bathroom lights were all on....including the main bedroom.

Right that is me done....must get work done.... :) :) :) :)

I do know where you're coming from yes, but how come no one, including JB, mentions seeing a light being turned on or off, or even that a light which was not previously on now was?
....just cos I eat worms...

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« Reply #49 on: September 08, 2012, 12:49:PM »
I do know where you're coming from yes, but how come no one, including JB, mentions seeing a light being turned on or off, or even that a light which was not previously on now was?

I don't know Bridget....I would love to ask many questions surrounding the windows at WHF.

Bews's, Myall, Saxby and JB were the first ones on site....they later moved position to the end of the lane.  They would have no view of the back of the house from there....The only time lights are mentioned is when the raid team took their positions.....It appears the back of the house was well lit up....yet Bews failed to notice this....Or did someone in the house put those lights on after they did their perimeter walk...

I'd like to know more.....Right I have one leg outside my door.....I'm off.... :) :) :) :)
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« Reply #50 on: September 08, 2012, 03:51:PM »
I don't know Bridget....I would love to ask many questions surrounding the windows at WHF.

Bews's, Myall, Saxby and JB were the first ones on site....they later moved position to the end of the lane.  They would have no view of the back of the house from there....The only time lights are mentioned is when the raid team took their positions.....It appears the back of the house was well lit up....yet Bews failed to notice this....Or did someone in the house put those lights on after they did their perimeter walk...

I'd like to know more.....Right I have one leg outside my door.....I'm off.... :) :) :) :)

I'd just like to say that Patti has a fetish for windows in general. Her behaviour was exactly the same in the Madeleine case. Windows. What she doesn't know,isn't worth knowing.

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« Reply #51 on: September 08, 2012, 07:01:PM »
I'd just like to say that Patti has a fetish for windows in general. Her behaviour was exactly the same in the Madeleine cases. Windows. What she doesn't know,isn't worth knowing.

How right you are Lookout. I remember it well about 4 years ago? Yep, I think it was!  I must say I have no ancestry which draws me to windows, but they play an important part in this case as well as the MC case.

Ironically in both case the windows were never used, forensic science tells us that.....

At the moment I am chatting to a Spanish guy, Heri who is a psychologist, he has been to PDL many times and let me have many of his pictures, so because I am quite, it does not mean I have forgotten about the case....I still delve....

In the Bamber case.....well?

Forensics do full examination of the windows between the 8th and 10th of September and found nothing.

On the 27th of September, Cook takes the catch from the window of the downstairs bathroom and marks it exhibit RWC/8

On the 1st of October Elliots and his forensic team again do an examination of the windows and notes the catch on the same window was scratched.....What catch? It was taken by Cook on the 27th??????

Did Cook replace it with another catch? What happened to exhibit RWC/8

You see where I am coming from?  My obsession with windows....found some use...and this information has been passed on.....Of course there could be an explanation, for the cock up.....But, one can't notice a catch from the same window and say it is scratched after it had been taken.... :) :) :) :)

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Re: Hedge or Wall?
« Reply #52 on: September 08, 2012, 07:15:PM »
How right you are Lookout. I remember it well about 4 years ago? Yep, I think it was!  I must say I have no ancestry which draws me to windows, but they play an important part in this case as well as the MC case.

Ironically in both case the windows were never used, forensic science tells us that.....

At the moment I am chatting to a Spanish guy, Heri who is a psychologist, he has been to PDL many times and let me have many of his pictures, so because I am quite, it does not mean I have forgotten about the case....I still delve....

In the Bamber case.....well?

Forensics do full examination of the windows between the 8th and 10th of September and found nothing.

On the 27th of September, Cook takes the catch from the window of the downstairs bathroom and marks it exhibit RWC/8

On the 1st of October Elliots and his forensic team again do an examination of the windows and notes the catch on the same window was scratched.....What catch? It was taken by Cook on the 27th??????

Did Cook replace it with another catch? What happened to exhibit RWC/8

You see where I am coming from?  My obsession with windows....found some use...and this information has been passed on.....Of course there could be an explanation, for the cock up.....But, one can't notice a catch from the same window and say it is scratched after it had been taken.... :) :) :) :)

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« Reply #53 on: September 08, 2012, 07:21:PM »

Hi Patti.
Blimey,I didn't even write anything.Hahahaha. Whoosh,it went.

Anyway,yes,your window fetish pays off with your investigating expertise.
Does this Spanish guy know about this case.? Is his field of psychiatry related to crime.?

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Re: Hedge or Wall?
« Reply #54 on: September 08, 2012, 08:16:PM »
Hi Patti.
Blimey,I didn't even write anything.Hahahaha. Whoosh,it went.

Anyway,yes,your window fetish pays off with your investigating expertise.
Does this Spanish guy know about this case.? Is his field of psychiatry related to crime.?

Yes he does Lookout, inside out....He is a criminologist too. A very friendly guy, he has a website, most of what is on there is about MC....what he has written himself....He gives alternative views as opposed to the PJ......He picks my half a brain and I pick his full one.....lol  :) :) :) :) 

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« Reply #55 on: September 08, 2012, 08:24:PM »
Yes he does Lookout, inside out....He is a criminologist too. A very friendly guy, he has a website, most of what is on there is about MC....what he has written himself....He gives alternative views as opposed to the PJ......He picks my half a brain and I pick his full one.....lol  :) :) :) :)

That's very interesting,Patti.

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« Reply #56 on: September 08, 2012, 08:30:PM »
That's very interesting,Patti.

Go to the MC other cases on here and I will post you his website....so you can have a look...he is a real nice guy... :) :) :) :)