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Offline Patti

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Re: Dontcha Just Love Idle Sunday's
« Reply #45 on: September 03, 2012, 07:12:PM »
Not read them no. Personally I think 'Jack the Ripper' didn't exist and was created as a media phenomenom. This may be a blunt perspective but it sells far more papers, when you have 1 man terrorising the streets of London, than numerous isolated murders.

My personal opinion is that both forensic science and police intelligence regarding modus operandi were not advanced enough in the 19th century to categorically say with absolute certainty that the same man committed all the murders. I personally believe that they were committed by a number of separate individuals.

Hi Petey

I disagree, I think he was real and all 5 women died in similar circumstances.....I'm not sure about Martha though.... :) :) :) :)

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« Reply #46 on: September 03, 2012, 07:13:PM »
Maybe I ought to bump up some old threads.....I will have a look... :o :o :o

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« Reply #47 on: September 03, 2012, 07:15:PM »
April  I did miss you but I was at the Dentist and then reading Mike's posts so not done much posting today talked some to our mutal friend packagebuilder :)

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« Reply #48 on: September 03, 2012, 07:28:PM »
April  I did miss you but I was at the Dentist and then reading Mike's posts so not done much posting today talked some to our mutal friend packagebuilder :)

Ugh!! Dentist is not much fun. Hope it was nothing more than a checkup!!! I've been out for lunch. Talked about the forum. My friend;s ex son in law was with the Met. He, and many of his co cops, before they joined the force, were drinking partners of the Krays.

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« Reply #49 on: September 03, 2012, 07:32:PM »
Hi april  two fillings £30 National Health.  Bet they would have lots to talk about drinking with the Krays' :)

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« Reply #50 on: September 03, 2012, 07:37:PM »
Hi april  two fillings £30 National Health.  Bet they would have lots to talk about drinking with the Krays' :)


I think they learned much from them too, Susan!! Know what I mean? Nudge nudge. Wink wink!!!!

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Re: Dontcha Just Love Idle Sunday's
« Reply #51 on: September 03, 2012, 09:08:PM »
If anyone is interested go on Twitter at  #RipperLive There is a handsome man called Gavin on there... :) :) :) :)

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« Reply #52 on: September 03, 2012, 10:13:PM »
mat  the press will sink as low as they can get to have a story,its sadly one still remaining  vices our country has, i would not put it past them to slip in her flat or offer cash to a janitor there for a look inside , where sheils lived fell into decay i  have seen pictures of then and now .

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« Reply #53 on: September 03, 2012, 10:18:PM »
mat  the press will sink as low as they can get to have a story,its sadly one still remaining  vices our country has, i would not put it past them to slip in her flat or offer cash to a janitor there for a look inside , where sheils lived fell into decay i  have seen pictures of then and now .

Well you've posted this reply in the wrong topic. But to sugges tthat the sun have broken into Sheilas apartment, seen the pcitures and then made the story about Jeremy up - is silly non-sense.

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« Reply #54 on: September 03, 2012, 10:49:PM »
Yeah, I am just reading about this now. It makes for another angle to the mystery. Walter Sickert is IMO one of the more likely suspects I've read about.

Yeah, I remember the shawl. I was hoping soemthing would come of it, because this mystery drives me wild!, but nothing did, you're right.

I'll have to double check my references, but from memory, Sickert was out of the country for at least two of the murders.  It's almost certain that he sent letters claiming to be from the killer, though, and he did appear to have an unhealty obssession with the murders.

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« Reply #55 on: September 03, 2012, 10:51:PM »
I'll have to double check my references, but from memory, Sickert was out of the country for at least two of the murders.  It's almost certain that he sent letters claiming to be from the killer, though, and he did appear to have an unhealty obssession with the murders.

Yeah, Cornwell does talk about him apparently being out of the country - I think she disputes it but I haven't reached that far yet.
Yes, he does seem to have a facination with the crimes, but then again he could have just enjoyed reading the stories and the details and painting pictures relating to the case ebcause he could connect to it due to the victims injuries matching his own disfigurements.

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« Reply #56 on: September 03, 2012, 10:56:PM »
In all honesty, I think it's more likely JTR was Jonny Nobody...someone we've never even heard of, or ever will hear of.  I find the idea that he's someone with some standing quite odd.  It just sells books, I suppose.

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Re: Dontcha Just Love Idle Sunday's
« Reply #57 on: September 03, 2012, 11:29:PM »
Hi Petey

I disagree, I think he was real and all 5 women died in similar circumstances.....I'm not sure about Martha though.... :) :) :) :)

I disagree. If you read through all the evidence the 'similar circumstances' is a tenuous link and in my opinion is very much stretching the point.

I'm sure that the same individual did not kill all 5 people. But that is just my opinion and we will never know the truth.

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Re: Dontcha Just Love Idle Sunday's
« Reply #58 on: September 04, 2012, 09:48:PM »
I disagree. If you read through all the evidence the 'similar circumstances' is a tenuous link and in my opinion is very much stretching the point.

I'm sure that the same individual did not kill all 5 people. But that is just my opinion and we will never know the truth.

That of course is your opinion, it certainly is not the opinion of the vast majority, including myself.

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« Reply #59 on: September 04, 2012, 10:22:PM »
ive a now obsolete videodisc player and films one is Murder by Decree, with the fine actor Christopher Plummer, in the film Jack the Ripper is a freemason, ive also got on NTSC video Time after Time, with David Warner as Jack the Ripper ,a cracker film.