Grief

[Neil]

Believe me its slower than watching paint dry sometimes. I remember once when a car door was brought into court just in case there was any doubt in the jury's mind as to what one looked like.

Nice to hear that they're that thorough.

[grahameb]

Nice to hear that they're that thorough.

Yes in between waking the judge up.

[lookout]

Yes in between waking the judge up.

And it was well to see that Arlidge had hold of the wrong briefs.! He's not going to live that one down.

[mertol22]

Believe me its slower than watching paint dry sometimes. I remember once when a car door was brought into court just in case there was any doubt in the jury's mind as to what one looked like.

you would get more intrest out of a Dalek grahame than a jury , jury are usually take human form bad bad news.

[grahameb]

Yes in between waking the judge up.

But be fair most judges usually bend over backwards to see that a defendant gets a fair trial. A lot of them lean towards the defence most of the time. Well from general observation that is. But as has been pointed out to me in no uncertain terms, I know nothing.

[mertol22]

But be fair most judges usually bend over backwards to see that a defendant gets a fair trial. A lot of them lean towards the defence most of the time. Well from general observation that is. But as has been pointed out to me in no uncertain terms, I know nothing.

Jeremy Bamber slipped through the net no fair trial, it was a waste of time, he just might have waited outside and have a slip of paper with the passing of sentence.

[maggie]

But be fair most judges usually bend over backwards to see that a defendant gets a fair trial. A lot of them lean towards the defence most of the time. Well from general observation that is. But as has been pointed out to me in no uncertain terms, I know nothing.

I suppose Grahame like most things in life, there are good and bad judges.  I would imagine now that it is not monopolised by the upper classes there are no doubt more aware and imaginative judges. They are not just sitting on high judging the hoi palloi.
Should imagine also that they have to work within guidelines that they may find prohibitive....there is however, the ones with personality disorders who are socio/psycho and have climbed that steep ladder, stamping on everyone on the way to attain their position of power.  There must be a percentage as there is in all positions of power.

[packagebuilder]

agreed!! theres good & bad!!

a judge takes years of training and most have started out as a sociltor etc!!  :D

most judges are fine! if the defendant has a good friendly attitude they do ok!

I say there are some judges that took everything to be there!! even some judges have came from a poor background and are the most respectful!

of course if you have lots of money the defendant can getway with fines instead jail about £5000+ with court fines is common for 6month max offences!

Like someone with no criminal history is in prosesson of a shotgun without a SGC gets a £750 fine in the magistrates court!! good judgement

when someone with a sawn-off shotgun  and fires one barrel in someones front door then fires the second barrel in their back door! get a 3 year impersonment! yeah he should at least got 6 years!

[grahameb]

Jeremy Bamber slipped through the net no fair trial, it was a waste of time, he just might have waited outside and have a slip of paper with the passing of sentence.

Well there are things about Judge (ducky) Drake I could tell you which are best left unsaid.

[grahameb]

I suppose Grahame like most things in life, there are good and bad judges.  I would imagine now that it is not monopolised by the upper classes there are no doubt more aware and imaginative judges. They are not just sitting on high judging the hoi palloi.
Should imagine also that they have to work within guidelines that they may find prohibitive....there is however, the ones with personality disorders who are socio/psycho and have climbed that steep ladder, stamping on everyone on the way to attain their position of power.  There must be a percentage as there is in all positions of power.

Maggie you will understand me when I say that knowledge amounts to nothing without wisdom. In my humble opinion the world may be gaining in knowledge, but few grow in wisdom.

[maggie]

Maggie you will understand me when I say that knowledge amounts to nothing without wisdom. In my humble opinion the world may be gaining in knowledge, but few grow in wisdom.

I certainly do understand and agree with that Grahame.

[Jane]

I suppose Grahame like most things in life, there are good and bad judges.....there is however, the ones with personality disorders who are socio/psycho and have climbed that steep ladder, stamping on everyone on the way to attain their position of power.  There must be a percentage as there is in all positions of power.

'Morning Maggie. WOW!! How interesting is that and what food for thought!! Most of us are aware that there are more p/s 'paths in prominent positions than there are in prison cells. We also know that they work from a different moral compass to the rest of society. Surely this must have some effect on the way they view the crime committed and the subsequent sentence they hand down.

[Neil]

But be fair most judges usually bend over backwards to see that a defendant gets a fair trial. A lot of them lean towards the defence most of the time. Well from general observation that is. But as has been pointed out to me in no uncertain terms, I know nothing.

Very good point Grahame. 

[petey]

agreed!! theres good & bad!!

a judge takes years of training and most have started out as a sociltor etc!!  :D

most judges are fine! if the defendant has a good friendly attitude they do ok!

I say there are some judges that took everything to be there!! even some judges have came from a poor background and are the most respectful!

of course if you have lots of money the defendant can getway with fines instead jail about £5000+ with court fines is common for 6month max offences!

Like someone with no criminal history is in prosesson of a shotgun without a SGC gets a £750 fine in the magistrates court!! good judgement

when someone with a sawn-off shotgun  and fires one barrel in someones front door then fires the second barrel in their back door! get a 3 year impersonment! yeah he should at least got 6 years!

Judges are appointed from the bar so are barristers, not solicitors which is completely different.

Sorry if nit picking!

[Roch]

I just wanted to add to this thread that I have never regarded Susan as being Jackie.  I regard the notion as a silly myth.  I think that members who have engaged in such accusations should pack it in.