Grief

[petey]

My assessment is based entirely upon what I see and the judgments they make and as I said upon the words of other legal people. Just because someone studies for years to obtain the best posititions in life does not automatically make them wise.
Obviously I don't include ALL judges. But from what I have observed I have a very low opinion of the profession. My opinion is not as rediculous as it may first seem.

It is a very very bold and in my opinion foolish statement to make when what you have seen and observed will account for less than 0.01% of judges and cases which have been decided.

What do you mean by 'the profession'?   Are u talking judges? barristers? solicitors? paralegals? 

[Neil]

One day i may do also, however they need to give something in return, they can start by getting rid of those stupid wigs, all they want in a court in front of them is a bowl of quaker oats with milk and they might look the part, robot explorers are checking out the martian surface for life and here on earth judges in Britain are wearing wigs , i should have been a comedian.

Tell us a joke then! 

[grahameb]

It is a very very bold and in my opinion foolish statement to make when what you have seen and observed will account for less than 0.01% of judges and cases which have been decided.

What do you mean by 'the profession'?   Are u talking judges? barristers? solicitors? paralegals?

My statement is clear and you know what I have been speaking about. Sometimes those in the legal profession are not in the best place to make a fair judgment on the matter. Which I think you will find it is so in many things in life.

[petey]

I'm afraid you cannot compare the two. If one is in a position to enjoy high regard from the public then they are also in the position of great responsibility. I have yet to see true British justice executed in our courtrooms.
On the case of insults I am sure that certain people on this forum don't really know what real insults are until they have been insulted on many occasions as I have been?

maybe if you didn't make so many crass, insensitive, factually wrong, ill thought out posts, then you wouldn't be criticised / insulted so much.

[petey]

My statement is clear and you know what I have been speaking about. Sometimes those in the legal profession are not in the best place to make a fair judgment on the matter. Which I think you will find it is so in many things in life.

So do you ccept that your overall perception of judges and the legal system is based on what you have experienced or read about, which is less than 0.01%?

[grahameb]

maybe if you didn't make so many crass, insensitive, factually wrong, ill thought out posts, then you wouldn't be criticised / insulted so much.

I think you will find that I am quite correct in my assessment of things? The only problem that you have is that you do not agree with me. The problem I am afraid is yours in that you have taken offense where no offense should have been taken. It is just two different opinions where both of us are entitled to have. As of course we are both looking at things from different perspectives. There is abasolutely no reason for you to make insulting posts against me, as My original post was in no may directed at you, or in any way calculated to offend you. I'm sorry if I have Petey.

[lookout]

Here goes ( a saying that I can't stand ) At the end of the day,,one can be academically minded,and very clever,but sadly devoid of common sense,which features in lots of cases.

[susan]

Hi lookout that saying applies so much to so many things and not many people have all the three.

[Bridget]

When you read of a 'barmy judge' in the newspaper, along with the headline you get a very slanted report with no balance at all.  Therefor, in most of these cases, unless you make the effort to read up on the WHOLE case and take on board both the defence and prosecution arguments, surely you are not fit to judge.

I personally hold our judges in the highest regard, as I do our surgeons.

Very true. Unfortunately it is very rare for the public to get access to the summing up, closing speeches, transcripts of witness evidence etc and so all we are left with is the opinion of some jaded hack.

[lookout]

Hi lookout that saying applies so much to so many things and not many people have all the three.

Hi Susan,,so very true.

[Neil]

Very true. Unfortunately it is very rare for the public to get access to the summing up, closing speeches, transcripts of witness evidence etc and so all we are left with is the opinion of some jaded hack.

Hi Bridget, yes I know, it's very frustrating, isn't it!

[Bridget]

Hi Bridget, yes I know, it's very frustrating, isn't it!

I suppose if you're interested enough in a particular case you can go and sit in, although I imagine space is limited in the high profile cases. Can you see a day when our criminal courts go televised? The Supreme Court has already I think, I tried to watch some but fell asleep.

[mertol22]

Tell us a joke then! 

Simples, Britain gives Syrian  rebels 5 million pounds for non lethal use, after its been creamed off  it might buy some smallarms , i could not dream the insanity up better myself.

[lookout]

Simples, Britain gives Syrian  rebels 5 million pounds for non lethal use, after its been creamed off  it might buy some smallarms , i could not dream the insanity up better myself.

Yes,I noticed that. We're full of crack-pot ideas in this country.

[grahameb]

I suppose if you're interested enough in a particular case you can go and sit in, although I imagine space is limited in the high profile cases. Can you see a day when our criminal courts go televised? The Supreme Court has already I think, I tried to watch some but fell asleep.

Believe me its slower than watching paint dry sometimes. I remember once when a car door was brought into court just in case there was any doubt in the jury's mind as to what one looked like.