Grief

[grahameb]

I hope he gets persecuted by his wife. Let's then see all his dirty washing. Karma to him.!

Campion may be able to furnish you with information regarding every professional person connected with JB's case if he is so inclined. He has made an indepth study of everyone. I doubt that he will post it though?

[grahameb]

On the face of it, that sounds ridiculous.  However, without hearing the other side of the story it is impossible to judge.  The newspapers, particularly the tabloids, frequently tend to print stories such as this, where there is often little or no balance.  That's why I gave up reading them.  For instance, what constitutes messing about?  In most instances I would suggest that the person doing the 'chasing' is the aggressor.  In the case you mention here, if the surgeon didn't want to be subjected to the 'usual volley of abuse', why chase after them?

I'm afraid I've seen too much of youths attacking pensioners to agree with you on that one. Most of these judges live in cloud cuckoo land to make a correct judgment about anything.

[petey]

I'm afraid I've seen too much of youths attacking pensioners to agree with you on that one. Most of these judges live in cloud cuckoo land to make a correct judgment about anything.

And you are basing this ridiculous assertation on what may i ask?

Have you any idea of the years and years of study, training and work it takes to become a Judge. You don't just walk in from the street and become one!

Your post is highly highly insulting.

[grahameb]

And you are basing this ridiculous assertation on what may i ask?

Have you any idea of the years and years of study, training and work it takes to become a Judge. You don't just walk in from the street and become one!

Your post is highly highly insulting.

Based on some of the rediculous judgments I've seen made by judges. Years of study should bring responsibily and not praise. I have also consulted other legal people on this and they agree with me.

[mertol22]

Petey if you actually look at the post of Grahame you may spot something, he mentions no single judge names and i agree with what he said, so please scorn me too, they sit in their ivory towers on a salary many will never see, out of touch with reality and society, we are below them, its 2012 and still we are pratting around with courts full of the great iam s  kneel and worship me rubbish, human judges are obsolete its time for machines to make such judgements.

[petey]

Based on some of the rediculous judgments I've seen made by judges. Years of study should bring responsibily and not praise. I have also consulted other legal people on this and they agree with me.

Clearly you are basing this on your clearly honed legal expertise of how criminal law and sentencing work.

Obviously you are aware that hundreds and hundreds of decisions are made every day in courts up and down the land, not just the few high profile ones featured on the news.

Of course you wouldn't be adopting a lay mans viewpoint of somebody without the slighest inkling how the legal system works.

If that is your honest viewpoint then my respect for you has significantly diminished.

[petey]

Petey if you actually look at the post of Grahame you may spot something, he mentions no single judge names and i agree with what he said, so please scorn me too, they sit in their ivory towers on a salary many will never see, out of touch with reality and society, we are below them, its 2012 and still we are pratting around with courts full of the great iam s  kneel and worship me rubbish, human judges are obsolete its time for machines to make such judgements.

I have no need to scorn you. I merely pity your blind ignorance, it would seem particularly relating to legal matters.

[mertol22]

I have no need to scorn you. I merely pity your blind ignorance, it would seem particularly relating to legal matters.

A polygraph is a machine is it not ?, can be used within US law, the law is  a farce , there are always limits to what a society will take, i can see law in time ending and people taking the law into their own hands, when that happens , logic will reign.

[petey]

A polygraph is a machine is it not ?, can be used within US law, the law is  a farce , there are always limits to what a society will take, i can see law in time ending and people taking the law into their own hands, when that happens , logic will reign.

Everybody is entitled to an opinion.

As you can probably tell, I do not agree with yours!

[mertol22]

Everybody is entitled to an opinion.

As you can probably tell, I do not agree with yours!

I figured you would not that much is certain.

[Neil]

When you read of a 'barmy judge' in the newspaper, along with the headline you get a very slanted report with no balance at all.  Therefor, in most of these cases, unless you make the effort to read up on the WHOLE case and take on board both the defence and prosecution arguments, surely you are not fit to judge.

I personally hold our judges in the highest regard, as I do our surgeons.

[petey]

When you read of a 'barmy judge' in the newspaper, along with the headline you get a very slanted report with no balance at all.  Therefor, in most of these cases, unless you make the effort to read up on the WHOLE case and take on board both the defence and prosecution arguments, surely you are not fit to judge.

I personally hold our judges in the highest regard, as I do our surgeons.

I agree. I'm not sure Graham realises how insulting his posts have been

[grahameb]

I have no need to scorn you. I merely pity your blind ignorance, it would seem particularly relating to legal matters.

My assessment is based entirely upon what I see and the judgments they make and as I said upon the words of other legal people. Just because someone studies for years to obtain the best posititions in life does not automatically make them wise.
Obviously I don't include ALL judges. But from what I have observed I have a very low opinion of the profession. My opinion is not as rediculous as it may first seem.

[mertol22]

When you read of a 'barmy judge' in the newspaper, along with the headline you get a very slanted report with no balance at all.  Therefor, in most of these cases, unless you make the effort to read up on the WHOLE case and take on board both the defence and prosecution arguments, surely you are not fit to judge.

I personally hold our judges in the highest regard, as I do our surgeons.

One day i may do also, however they need to give something in return, they can start by getting rid of those stupid wigs, all they want in a court in front of them is a bowl of quaker oats with milk and they might look the part, robot explorers are checking out the martian surface for life and here on earth judges in Britain are wearing wigs , i should have been a comedian.

[grahameb]

When you read of a 'barmy judge' in the newspaper, along with the headline you get a very slanted report with no balance at all.  Therefor, in most of these cases, unless you make the effort to read up on the WHOLE case and take on board both the defence and prosecution arguments, surely you are not fit to judge.

I personally hold our judges in the highest regard, as I do our surgeons.

I'm afraid you cannot compare the two. If one is in a position to enjoy high regard from the public then they are also in the position of great responsibility. I have yet to see true British justice executed in our courtrooms.
On the case of insults I am sure that certain people on this forum don't really know what real insults are until they have been insulted on many occasions as I have been?