Grief

[mertol22]

Sorry, im being silly. I have had one of those days.

must be the heat Leeds must have been warmer.

[vidvic]

The ccrc are no use to anyone grahame mass waste of money what ever happened to common sense and logic.

Before the CCRC bamber would have even less chance of getting out. Before the ccrc they would have long since thrown away the key.

Your views on grief and your claims to be an expert on the subject are crass, highly subjective and insulting.

[mertol22]

Before the CCRC bamber would have even less chance of getting out. Before the ccrc they would have long since thrown away the key.

Your views on grief and your claims to be an expert on the subject are crass, highly subjective and insulting.

i am not an expert i have seen more death than you will never know do people a favour and leave pal you contribute nothing.

[Buddy]

i am not an expert i have seen more death than you will never know do people a favour and leave pal you contribute nothing.

Hold on Mertol! Most of the deaths you have seen are natural. I would hate to see Vic leave.
Maybe I do not agree with all he says, but he a good poster, as is Harters. His opinion is as welcomed as any. He does post facts as he sees them. I am aware he is close to the family, but do not find this a handicap, in fact I find it helpful. Yes I do think that he may be blinkered, but still think that he contributes a great deal to the debate, as does Steve. I am a fence sitter, and want someone to shove me one way or the other.
The fact that some disagree with me does not bother me. I just want the truth, whatever it is.

[-Harters-]

i am not an expert i have seen more death than you will never know do people a favour and leave pal you contribute nothing.

With all of that time spent with the dead, maybe you've fallen behind in being able to interact with the living?

I'm not Buddys biggest fan and vice versa, but I very much agree with his post above.

[mertol22]

Hold on Mertol! Most of the deaths you have seen are natural. I would hate to see Vic leave.
Maybe I do not agree with all he says, but he a good poster, as is Harters. His opinion is as welcomed as any. He does post facts as he sees them. I am aware he is close to the family, but do not find this a handicap, in fact I find it helpful. Yes I do think that he may be blinkered, but still think that he contributes a great deal to the debate, as does Steve. I am a fence sitter, and want someone to shove me one way or the other.
The fact that some disagree with me does not bother me. I just want the truth, whatever it is.

whatever his tie with the relatives is no concern of mine, for the most part he does not post as often, he must have known the relatives are going to be debated about and often not in a positive way, if he takes issue with that dont get involved, the thread was started in good faith and once again ended sour,i  have actually offered help to a forum member in the early days and currently helping a friend with grief, neither were there that night they both know nothing like me and everyone else on the forum, thats why we are here to discuss it .

[-Harters-]

With all of that time spent with the dead, maybe you've fallen behind in being able to interact with the living?

I'm not Buddys biggest fan and vice versa, but I very much agree with his post above.

Not the blinkered bit though, obviously. 

[mertol22]

With all of that time spent with the dead, maybe you've fallen behind in being able to interact with the living?

I'm not Buddys biggest fan and vice versa, but I very much agree with his post above.

people who die mr jam still belong to someone i apologise for my remarks earlier today.

[-Harters-]

people who die mr jam still belong to someone i apologise for my remarks earlier today.

Thank you, apology accepted.

Whatever you have seen or witnessed, bear in mind that there is always somebody who has seen, witnessed or endured worse, please bear that in mind when addressing people on the forum, particularly when you don't know them, as you may well offend them.

You do not have the monopoly on grief and heartache.

[mertol22]

Is it fair for posters to say jb was faking grief on the funerals ? grief is a emotion a human one you could not be human without.

[-Harters-]

Is it fair for posters to say jb was faking grief on the funerals ? grief is a emotion a human one you could not be human without.

It's fair for people to have an opinion, yes, don't take it so personally, you do not have to agree with them.

[Buddy]

Mertol I am sure that you are a nice person, and have honest intentions. I would hate to scare away [if that is the right phrase] someone who has a different opinion to mine
Vic has been an up front poster albeit a tad biased, but thats fine by me.

[andrea]

I think most of us are biased to whatever side of the fence we sit, Buddy.

[Buddy]

I think most of us are biased to whatever side of the fence we sit, Buddy.

You are probably right Andy

[andrea]

I have been either side of the fence and on it!