Grief

[andrea]

so after the joggers had been put into the bucket downstairs, she still had to get upstairs without getting blood down her front.

[lookout]

so after the joggers had been put into the bucket downstairs, she still had to get upstairs without getting blood down her front.

Well by the time Sheila got to where she lay,with her hand held onto her neck ( there was blood on her right hand,which when released,would have gone all over one of the rugs that was burned by the police ),,there was then further blood to where she finally lay.
And don't think for one minute that Jeremy " told " the police to burn the rugs/carpets,because he didn't.!

[andrea]

I disagree, had she been holding her wound before the 2nd shot the blood would have been on the front of her nightie, after releasing her hand. No blood was found on her hands either.

[Steve_uk]

I disagree, had she been holding her wound before the 2nd shot the blood would have been on the front of her nightie, after releasing her hand. No blood was found on her hands either.

Just so Andrea. Anything to circumvent the subject,speaking of which,where was the grief and where is the remorse?

[maggie]

She didnt swan off on holliday either did she? C'mon Grahame, Bambers behaviour after his family were killed did not do him any favours. Like i say we all grieve differently, but most of us lose our loved ones to accident or illness. Its very different when five of them are murdered.

Andrea an event of such magnitude is hard to imagine for most of us. The brain can behave in many ways due to shock and trauma and is capable of just closing down on such dreadful trauma because its too much to deal with. If you have ever experienced s trauma you will remember how you only noticed and dealt with the trivial and nothing else registered. This can last for various lengths of time depending on the nature of the trauma and the person involved.  Jereny could have been in a state of denial for a long time. No one has the riggt to judge how anyone else copes with such overwhelming grief. So if he was innocent such behaviour should not be judged. Surely if he was guilty he would have played the expected acceptable role. Its one of the reasons that reinforce ny belief in his innocence. imo

[andrea]

Well imo, having just lost 5 members of my family, brutally, i would have been devastated. I couldnt have eaten anything that day either, Colin did say that Jeremy seemed to copying Colin and observing to see how he was reacting.
Bamber was too quick to deal with the financial issues too, getting some items valued ready to be flogged off. trying to sell sheilas pictures. It goes on and on....

[andrea]

Making sexual remarks to julie on the day of the funerals, slapping the waitresses arses. brett suggesting that he wear talc to make him self appear more upset, that shouldnt have been necessary. setting the video recorder to tape the funerals hoping the shots got his best side.

[andrea]

Right, off to work. bye.

[Steve_uk]

Andrea an event of such magnitude is hard to imagine for most of us. The brain can behave in many ways due to shock and trauma and is capable of just closing down on such dreadful trauma because its too much to deal with. If you have ever experienced s trauma you will remember how you only noticed and dealt with the trivial and nothing else registered. This can last for various lengths of time depending on the nature of the trauma and the person involved.  Jereny could have been in a state of denial for a long time. No one has the riggt to judge how anyone else copes with such overwhelming grief. So if he was innocent such behaviour should not be judged. Surely if he was guilty he would have played the expected acceptable role. Its one of the reasons that reinforce ny belief in his innocence. imo

The point was having never suffered from grief Jeremy was clueless how to act. Didn't Colin Caffell remark that he suspected that Jeremy was trying to imitate him?

[lookout]

I disagree, had she been holding her wound before the 2nd shot the blood would have been on the front of her nightie, after releasing her hand. No blood was found on her hands either.

Blood was found on Sheilas' right hand,,and contrary to which newspaper/thread you read,,it was also underneath her feet after the bags were removed in the mortuary.

[Steve_uk]

Just read Andrea's posts #50 and #51. Stated simply and matter-of -factly yet with such a devastating effect.

[lookout]

Making sexual remarks to julie on the day of the funerals, slapping the waitresses arses. brett suggesting that he wear talc to make him self appear more upset, that shouldnt have been necessary. setting the video recorder to tape the funerals hoping the shots got his best side.

How about Julies' penchant for " sleeping with a mass murderer " then,,if you believe that Jeremy did it.?
Do you think she'd have found that exciting.? Ohhhh,I don't think for one minute if she'd known he'd slaughtered his family,,that she'd have continued to sleep with him,do you.?

[-Harters-]

How about Julies' penchant for " sleeping with a mass murderer " then,,if you believe that Jeremy did it.?
Do you think she'd have found that exciting.? Ohhhh,I don't think for one minute if she'd known he'd slaughtered his family,,that she'd have continued to sleep with him,do you.?

Funny how people take offence when this term is used, but only when it suits. 

[maggie]

Well imo, having just lost 5 members of my family, brutally, i would have been devastated. I couldnt have eaten anything that day either, Colin did say that Jeremy seemed to copying Colin and observing to see how he was reacting.
Bamber was too quick to deal with the financial issues too, getting some items valued ready to be flogged off. trying to sell sheilas pictures. It goes on and on....

Andrea, with respect, you cannot possibly know how you would behave in a situation like that.

[maggie]

Making sexual remarks to julie on the day of the funerals, slapping the waitresses arses. brett suggesting that he wear talc to make him self appear more upset, that shouldnt have been necessary. setting the video recorder to tape the funerals hoping the shots got his best side.

Nothing should have been 'necessary' that doesn't prove anything and anyway where did you get this information?