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Offline andrea

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« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2012, 09:20:AM »
The journo who Bamber tried to flog the pictures gave a statement to the police, and was willing to give evidence in court, he wasnt needed.
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« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2012, 09:27:AM »
She didnt swan off on holliday either did she? C'mon Grahame, Bambers behaviour after his family were killed did not do him any favours. Like i say we all grieve differently, but most of us lose our loved ones to accident or illness. Its very different when five of them are murdered.
He also did not want to live in the house after those murders. Ann Eaton did and even keeps it the same to this day. Remember also that his chief accuser JM also went with him. Quite frankly  if the same thing happened to my family I would want to get as far away as possible from the scene of the crime and would also put my house up for sale. Believe me JB acted in a far more "normal" way withing the pattern of grief than Ann Eaton did. Even her husband thought it strange that she was so eager to move into that house.
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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2012, 09:28:AM »
My disdain for the tabloids ive never found a scale to put them in , what was worse jeremy offering the pictures or a vile press listening ? its not quite all one way andrea.

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« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2012, 09:30:AM »
My disdain for the tabloids ive never found a scale to put them in , what was worse jeremy offering the pictures or a vile press listening ? its not quite all one way andrea.

They listened, but didnt buy the photos.
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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2012, 09:30:AM »
He also did not want to live in the house after those murders. Ann Eaton did and even keeps it the same to this day. Remember also that his chief accuser JM also went with him. Quite frankly I if the same thing happened to my family I would want to get as far away as possible from the scene of the crime and would also put my house up for sale. Believe me JB acted in a far more "normal" way withing the pattern of grief than Ann Eaton did. Even her husband thought it strange that she was so eager to move into that house.
I understand WHF is a grade 2 listed building, if i had the power i would have knocked it down.

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« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2012, 09:33:AM »
Hi lookout  I think the family backgroud Jeremy came from and the private schools he went to do not encourage children to show emotions.  Therefore when Jeremy grew up he was still the same but of course he does not mean he does not feel emotion.  Can you remember William and Harry when they walked behind their Mother's coffin we did not see one hint of tears or emotion but we know how they loved their Mother and probably still miss her.

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« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2012, 09:35:AM »
They listened, but didnt buy the photos.
Knowing the press they would have a dictating machine with them , a copy of what was discussed that i would like to hear.

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« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2012, 09:38:AM »
Didnt hear of any type of recording equipment used.

He did give a statemenet to the police about the meeting though.
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« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2012, 09:39:AM »
My disdain for the tabloids ive never found a scale to put them in , what was worse jeremy offering the pictures or a vile press listening ? its not quite all one way andrea.
Believe me Mertol the Sun was not that moral. You just have to see how they treat other important stories to see that. The Sun was one of those papers that believed Bamber was guilty and it so happened that a story about Bamber "allegedly" trying to sell pictures of his naked sister to them waqs more of a scoop than the pictures themselves. Because (1) It presents them in a high moral stand and therefore a very favourable light in the eyes of the public. and (2) I drags up dirt on Bamber who they said was guilty anyway.
Don't forget my friend's encounter with the editor of the Sun in a party where he was "celebrating" with police on the successful conviction of Bamber and said to my friend, "Of course we know the little shit didn't do it". So the Sun  was very biased against Bamber to start with. In the light of that I cannot think as to why Bamber would try and sell them pictures of his sister? Unless of course it was a setup designed to trip up a naive young man? Might be a good move to question the man who persuaded him to do it?
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« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2012, 09:40:AM »
I understand WHF is a grade 2 listed building, if i had the power i would have knocked it down.
In my opinion it is quite an ugly building.

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« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2012, 09:46:AM »
In my opinion it is quite an ugly building.
the extensions yes an eyesore , quite sure the cottages are ok, the house in its early years of completion may well have looked fine .

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« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2012, 09:50:AM »
Believe me Mertol the Sun was not that moral. You just have to see how they treat other important stories to see that. The Sun was one of those papers that believed Bamber was guilty and it so happened that a story about Bamber "allegedly" trying to sell pictures of his naked sister to them waqs more of a scoop than the pictures themselves. Because (1) It presents them in a high moral stand and therefore a very favourable light in the eyes of the public. and (2) I drags up dirt on Bamber who they said was guilty anyway.
Don't forget my friend's encounter with the editor of the Sun in a party where he was "celebrating" with police on the successful conviction of Bamber and said to my friend, "Of course we know the little shit didn't do it". So the Sun  was very biased against Bamber to start with. In the light of that I cannot think as to why Bamber would try and sell them pictures of his sister? Unless of course it was a setup designed to trip up a naive young man? Might be a good move to question the man who persuaded him to do it?
The press want us to believe what they print , when newspapers are free of cost to the public i might start believing .

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« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2012, 09:54:AM »
The press want us to believe what they print , when newspapers are free of cost to the public i might start believing .

Then they'll want you to believe what their advertisers think..;)
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« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2012, 10:01:AM »
Then they'll want you to believe what their advertisers think..;)
Their advertisers are brutal money grabbing butchers with a ruthless mind of a Cyberman.

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« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2012, 10:39:AM »
Erm, no Lookut i dont read the sun, actually.


Well,Andrea,,it was the Sun newspaper that Jeremy allegedly approached,for the purchase of the said photos,so my guess is that you had a little sneak preview to see if they'd been printed.