Why falsify which autopsy, was performed first?

[mike tesko]

Why falsify which autopsy, was performed first?

[mike tesko]

Why falsify which autopsy, was performed first?

No wonder the original autopsy notes appear to have gione missing (reportedly stolen during a burglary), mmmnnnn...

[mike tesko]

No wonder the original autopsy notes appear to have gione missing (reportedly stolen during a burglary), mmmnnnn...

I mean - why the fuck would any burglar or would be thief,  be interested in  stealing a set of autopsy notes, relating to this case?

[mike tesko]

I mean - why the fuck would any burglar or would be thief,  be interested in  stealing a set of autopsy notes, relating to this case?

OK, lets get down to the business part of this thread - the so called order that the five autopsies were performed by pathologist, Peter Venezis (didn't he also carry out an autopsy once, on Princess Diana)?

Order of reported autopsy
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(1) - Ralph Bamber
(2) - Sheila Caffell
(3) - June Bamber
(4) - Daniel Caffell
(5) - Nicholas Caffell

[mike tesko]

OK, lets get down to the business part of this thread - the so called order that the five autopsies were performed by pathologist, Peter Venezis (didn't he also carry out an autopsy once, on Princess Diana)?

Order of reported autopsy
---------------------------------

(1) - Ralph Bamber
(2) - Sheila Caffell
(3) - June Bamber
(4) - Daniel Caffell
(5) - Nicholas Caffell

Photographs were being taken during each autopsy, and recorded on consecutively numbered or marked negative strips...

Ralph first, then Sheila, then June, then Daniel, and lastly Nicholas - a piece of cake to check this information out, nothing could be any simpler - er, could somebody check the Stokenchurch register schedule out, which deals with the order that photographs were taken in, and check if any of this pans out exactly as it should do.?

I will be away for about half an hour or more, so I can't check myself at the moment...

[Bridget]

Yes, Stokenchurch is in the same order you posted above.

[mike tesko]

Yes, Stokenchurch is in the same order you posted above.

Just got back, checking myself and found this discrepancy:-

"Autopsy photographs taken of Sheila Caffells autopsy were taken on a strip of film before similar photographs were taken of autopsy carried out on Ralph Bamber, now how could that happen, if the autopsy performed on Ralph Bamber, was carried out before the autopsy performed by Pathologist, Peter Venezis, on corpse of Sheila Caffell?

"So, what's been going on, here then"?


Lets get the facts right, so there is no mistake, here are the photograph numbers from the "Stokenchurch register schedule" relating to all the photographs that were taken:-

Sheila Caffell:-
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photograph No.133 - Post mortem of Sheila Caffell
photograph No.134 - Post mortem of Sheila Caffell
photograph No.135 - Post mortem of Sheila Caffell
photograph No.136 - Post mortem of Sheila Caffell
photograph No.137 - Post mortem of Sheila Caffell
photograph No.138 - Post mortem of Sheila Caffell
photograph No.139 - Post mortem of Sheila Caffell
photograph No.140 - Post mortem of Sheila Caffell

Ralph Bamber:-
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photograph No.146 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.147 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.148 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.149 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.150 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.151 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.152 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.153 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.154 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.155 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.156 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.157 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.158 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.159 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.160 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber
photograph No.161 - Post mortem of Ralph Bamber

[mike tesko]

So, Post mortem photographs were taken of post mortem examination performed on Sheila Caffell, before similar photographs were taken of the post mortem examination carried out on Ralph Bamber, but how can this be if the post mortem examination was carried out on Ralph Bamber, first?

[lookout]

I mean - why the fuck would any burglar or would be thief,  be interested in  stealing a set of autopsy notes, relating to this case?

Be the same one who stole " Taff " Jones's notebook from his loft.!

[lookout]

Why weren't times of deaths recorded.?

[mike tesko]

Something very dodgy has been going on here, because if autopsy performed on Ralph Bamber was performed first, how can photographs of Sheila Caffells post mortem examination be taken before those relating to Ralph's post mortem?

[mike tesko]

"Stokenchurch register schedule" is not a copy of the "COURT ALBUM"(50) index, since it provides details of photographs taken during the autopsy up to and inclusive of photograph number 189, but it does include the same general sequence of events, as described in the "COURT ALBUM" (50), and does not contain any evidence that PC Bird took any photographs of Sheila's body in the bedroom before he took photographs No. 23 which shows the rifle that fired the fatal bullet that killed Sheila, resting against the bedroom window. So, why was PC Bird telling the court during his testimony that photograph 23 was the third photograph he took after he came out of the bedroom, where he had been photographing Sheila and June?

When he said this, the jury would have been fooled into thinking and accepting that photographs 27 to 32 had been taken before the rifle was photographed resting against the window (23), when all along they were not taken until after PC Bird photographed (23) the rifle there - this means of course that if the rifle was resting against the bedroom window (23)  before it was photographed on Sheila's body (27 to 32), that a police officer must have moved the rifle from the window, onto the body, contrary to what DI "Ron" Cook, told the court when he testified during the same proceedings, since and I will remind every one what he said on that occasion - he said that he moved Sheila's hand from the gun to allow PC Bird to take a photograph of bloodied marks on the front lower right hand side of her nightdress, and that he then removed the rifle from Sheila's body, and stood it up against the bedroom window, which then allowed PC Bird to then photograph it (23) from the vantage point of the middle landing of the main stairs? But this could not have happened at all, because no pictures of Sheila's body were taken until after photograph 23 was taken, only some which showed Sheila's body in the bedroom on the bed, minus the rifle...

"Ron" Cook, perjured himself when he testified during Jeremy's trial, he told a pack of lies about the significance of the rifle that shot the fatal bullet (PV/19) under the chin of Sheila Caffell, and how the rifle itself ended up on her body in time for PC Bird to photograph it there in time for photograph 27 to 32 to be taken (after 23, not before it was taken)  - he conspired with others to cover up the circumstances relating to how the police shot and killed Sheila in the bedroom. Every member of the SOC team inside that farmhouse are involved in a conspiracy to suppress the truth about what took place, involving senior police officers, and others, who will all have to face the music at some stage now that the truth is beginning to emerge as to what took place...

[mike tesko]

Then of course...

Is the sequence with which all the negatives were taken, which Mr Sutherst has examined, as compared to these photographic schedules?

[mike tesko]

Then of course...

Is the sequence with which all the negatives were taken, which Mr Sutherst has examined, as compared to these photographic schedules?

Why wasn't these negatives exhibited, or at least a true schedule made up to show the exact sequence that photographs were taken in?

[rhodes]

Something very dodgy has been going on here, because if autopsy performed on Ralph Bamber was performed first, how can photographs of Sheila Caffells post mortem examination be taken before those relating to Ralph's post mortem?

Because they were>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Sheila was examined first and foremost then Nevill, June and the twins the following day.