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Offline bob

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Re: ENIGMA. code word for bullshit?
« Reply #60 on: August 03, 2012, 10:06:PM »


Just give Mike time. He knows what he's doing,without being prompted. After all,,the PII,police and Southend-on-sea have held onto information for years,,so why get on to Mike.
I'm sure Jeremy is sat there in his cell echoing your sentiments  ::)

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Re: ENIGMA. code word for bullshit?
« Reply #61 on: August 03, 2012, 10:08:PM »
FFS  :-\

I would like to ask other long-term "pro" posters how they sit by and ignore this?

Roch?
NGB?
Keira - if she still posts here under another name?

It's a farce  :-[
I dont consider myself as a long term poster , but ive yet to leave and change my username, so i hope that stands for something, if evidence exists to offer an alternative version of events that night then it needs to be on the table now or never, i dont know for how much longer JB can remain in a position to carry on his fight, if he is at 60 and still no further along its time to come to terms no evidence exists, these events happened not a few years ago but over a quarter of a century ago, with lament the world was a better place then.

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Re: ENIGMA. code word for bullshit?
« Reply #62 on: August 03, 2012, 10:09:PM »
FFS  :-\

I would like to ask other long-term "pro" posters how they sit by and ignore this?

Roch?
NGB?
Keira - if she still posts here under another name?

It's a farce  :-[
Their absence speaks volumes to me
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Re: ENIGMA. code word for bullshit?
« Reply #63 on: August 03, 2012, 10:10:PM »
I dont consider myself as a long term poster , but ive yet to leave and change my username, so i hope that stands for something, if evidence exists to offer an alternative version of events that night then it needs to be on the table now or never, i dont know for how much longer JB can remain in a position to carry on his fight, if he is at 60 and still no further along its time to come to terms no evidence exists, these events happened not a few years ago but over a quarter of a century ago, with lament the world was a better place then.
IMO he's now In for his natural life. I'm sure mike will be banging his drum till then also
« Last Edit: August 03, 2012, 10:11:PM by tonyb »
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Re: ENIGMA. code word for bullshit?
« Reply #64 on: August 03, 2012, 10:13:PM »
I dont consider myself as a long term poster , but ive yet to leave and change my username, so i hope that stands for something, if evidence exists to offer an alternative version of events that night then it needs to be on the table now or never, i dont know for how much longer JB can remain in a position to carry on his fight, if he is at 60 and still no further along its time to come to terms no evidence exists, these events happened not a few years ago but over a quarter of a century ago, with lament the world was a better place then.
So as I understand this Mertol, you too now realise Mike is making it up as he goes along?

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Re: ENIGMA. code word for bullshit?
« Reply #65 on: August 03, 2012, 10:16:PM »
IMO he's now In for his natural life. I'm sure mike will be banging his drum till then also
Its something that may well happen all i can add is i know without question such crimes could never be done and walk scott free no one can be that stupid, i regard 1980s forensic science as poor by todays standards but that is where courts decide on .

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« Reply #66 on: August 03, 2012, 10:19:PM »
So as I understand this Mertol, you too now realise Mike is making it up as he goes along?
I dont believe mike has evidence to free jeremy no, that does not mean to say evidence exists elsewhere beyond the reach of anyone.

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Re: ENIGMA. code word for bullshit?
« Reply #67 on: August 03, 2012, 10:20:PM »
Its something that may well happen all i can add is i know without question such crimes could never be done and walk scott free no one can be that stupid, i regard 1980s forensic science as poor by todays standards but that is where courts decide on .
Don't get me wrong,IMO he should not of been found guilty,but now.... I bet he's in for good.
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« Reply #68 on: August 03, 2012, 10:24:PM »
Don't get me wrong,IMO he should not of been found guilty,but now.... I bet he's in for good.
You do suprise me tony i always thought you thought JB was guilty, i also feel the evidence to find him guilty is up for question, the problem is the moment a guilty person enteres prison in the eyes of the law you are guilty if you want to fight that passed sentence its all in your ball park from here on in.

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Re: ENIGMA. code word for bullshit?
« Reply #69 on: August 03, 2012, 10:26:PM »
I respect mike i admire his stance to allow pro and anti posters on his forum, thats a very fair offer but time is running out and fast, the world moves on .

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Re: ENIGMA. code word for bullshit?
« Reply #70 on: August 03, 2012, 10:29:PM »
Their absence speaks volumes to me

Absence speaks volumes for what?  What are you referring to?

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Re: ENIGMA. code word for bullshit?
« Reply #71 on: August 03, 2012, 10:38:PM »
I have enigma, and it is becoming more and more clearer as time moves on, that people are now starting to believe and accept that blood can run from entry wounds, and the mouth and the nostrils if somebody moves the body from one position to another, long after death has occurred (or not as the case may be)/ What is clear to me from the evidence I have access to, is that police moved Sheila's body from the bed to the bedroom floor, and that once PC Bird started to take pictures of Sheila on the floor, the rifle which had been leaning up against the bedroom window before the raid team entered the premises, ended up being photographed on top of Sheila's body on the floor whilst she had two entry wounds to her neck? What is very interesting is that with the aid of Enigma, it is possible to reconstruct what took place, who was involved and the sequence of events which led up to the stage managing of Sheila's body on the bedroom floor by police later on...

It is simply a case of relying upon the evidence given by the likes of WPC Julia Jeapes, DC Clarke, DS Jones, PS Adams, and PC Wright, which will be the undoing of the police conspiracy, not to mention the involvement of members of a second team of firearms officers who carried out a training exercise once the vast majority of the original raid team had left the scene at about 9am...

What DC Clarke told Ann Eaton about Sheila's body being found on the bed, and what DS Jones has said about the state and condition of Sheila's body when he saw it insitu at the scene, for example, that she looked so peaceful as though she was simply a sleep, does not sit well with what other police officers have said and what is shown in the crime scene photographs taken by PC Bird showing Sheila's body on the bedroom floor with two bullet entry wounds in her neck, and blood awash everywhere...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: ENIGMA. code word for bullshit?
« Reply #72 on: August 03, 2012, 10:48:PM »
Absence speaks volumes for what?  What are you referring to?
Presumably Tony was, quite reasonably, interpretting your lack of comment as indicative of you having put this topic into the "too inconvenient to comment on" basket.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2012, 10:49:PM by bob »

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Re: ENIGMA. code word for bullshit?
« Reply #73 on: August 03, 2012, 11:16:PM »
Let us also not forget that upon being told by the police that all his family were dead, that Jeremy accused the police of killing them all, but bis complaint was never investigated at all?
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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« Reply #74 on: August 03, 2012, 11:27:PM »
Let us also not forget that upon being told by the police that all his family were dead, that Jeremy accused the police of killing them all, but bis complaint was never investigated at all?
As much as i wish this case to be resolved either way , my expierience in grief tells me Jeremy blamed them because they waited so long to storm the farm, its possible some family members could have been saved its possible.