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Exposing what took place by reference to use of broom handle in reconstruction

AS far as I know, there was no broom handle as an exhibit in this case, or which was photographed at the scene. Yet in David Shaws account he makes mention of police officers gathering around the body of Sheila on the bedroom floor, and DCI "Taff" Jones using a broom handle to demonstrate how Sheila could have shot herself twice?
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Exposing what took place by reference to use of broom handle in reconstruction

AS far as I know, there was no broom handle as an exhibit in this case, or which was photographed at the scene. Yet in David Shaws account he makes mention of police officers gathering around the body of Sheila on the bedroom floor, and DCI "Taff" Jones using a broom handle to demonstrate how Sheila could have shot herself twice?

DCI "Taff" Jones, arrived at the scene at about 9:10am...
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My understanding is that by the time DCI Jones arrived (9;10am) at the scene, the training exercise involving other officers not yet named, was already under way. Furthermore, PS Adams had already been into the bedroom (9am) and seen Sheila's body with no rifle upon it, or near to it...
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My understanding is that by the time DCI Jones arrived (9;10am) at the scene, the training exercise involving other officers not yet named, was already under way. Furthermore, PS Adams had already been into the bedroom (9am) and seen Sheila's body with no rifle upon it, or near to it...

According to "Taff" Jones account, the rifle "Y" was already upon the body when he first entered the bedroom and viewed Sheila on the bedroom floor...

If true I think we can safely assume that somebody placed rifle "Y" onto Sheila's body during the training exercise prior to "Taff", entering the bedroom? If we say PS Adams was in the bedroom at 9am, and that "Taff" did not go there until about 9:15 to 9:30am, then time of death for Sheila was somewhere in the region of 9:15am (after the occasion when the police surgeon, Dr Craig, had already pronounced Sheila as being dead at 8:44am)?

Sheila must have been shot for the second time at some stage after 9am...
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In David Shaws account, he makes mention of the use of a broom handle by "Taff" Jones who was / is showing the others at the scene (huddled around him) how it was possible for Sheila to have shot herself twice by using a broom handle as a relevant prop, but I think he actually used rifle "Y", which had actually already discharged the fatal shot (PV/19) under the chin that killed Sheila...
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The question I would like to pose, is why would DCI "Taff" Jones, be concerning himself with whether or not Sheila had shot herself twice in quick succession at such an early stage?
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The question I would like to pose, is why would DCI "Taff" Jones, be concerning himself with whether or not Sheila had shot herself twice in quick succession at such an early stage?

Please tell us why,the suspense is killing me..and whilst you're about it tell us why nobody in that house heard a report of a rifle..

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Please tell us why,the suspense is killing me..and whilst you're about it tell us why nobody in that house heard a report of a rifle..

DCI Jones and other senior officers present at the scene gathered around the body of Sheila on the bedroom floor, pondering and discussing how Sheila had come to be shot a second time by use of the rifle that had been standing at the bedroom window, which had been picked up by a member of the training exercise involved in a reconstruction of the raid (which took place after 9am) and placed upon Sheila's body lengthways with the muzzle of its barrel in the region of the solitary wound (at that time) upon her throat. The rifle (Y) was resting flush on top of her nightdress as described (during the reconstruction) and the fingers of Sheila's right hand were positioned upon the trigger mechanism, and pressed against the trigger which discharged the second round under her chin, sending the fatal bullet (PV/20) thundering upwards through her chin, up into the void of her mouth, through the roof of her mouth until it became deposited in her brain. It was at this stage that police realized that Sheila had not been dead until the second shot had been discharged. By this stage of course, the police surgeon, Dr Craig, and all the ambulance crews had already left the scene. The member of the training exercise who took possession of the rifle from the bedroom window did not know that the rifle in question was still loaded with any ammunition because he mistakenly thought it was the gun which had been used to shoot the victims including Sheila herself and that another officer who was part of the original raid team had made it safe already. All of this took place before the arrival of DCI "Taff" Jones at the scene and before he actually entered the farmhouse, but other senior police officers such as DCI "George" Harris, were present...

When DCI "Taff" Jones went into the house and eventually ended up in the bedroom where Sheila had already been shot twice, a huge debate and discussion was already in progress between police officers who were present in the bedroom about how they were going to have to explain how Sheila came to be shot twice, when already she had been pronounced as dead (Dr Criag, at 8:44am) with a solitary wound to her throat? The rifle in question (Y) which had discharged the fatal bullet (PV/19) had been removed by the time DCI Jones arrived in the bedroom, and made safe by PI "Ivor" Montgomery who checked to see if the gun was still loaded with bullets, and that there was no further ammunition in the breach of the rifle? He also believed to have activated the safety switch on the weapon, before "Taff" Jones took possession of it and whilst others were gathered around Sheila's body on the floor, he relaid it atop her body with the muzzle of the rifle close in proximity to the two bullet entry wounds on her neck and by moving Sheila's right arm he was able to reconstruct what had taken place during the training exercise when one of the officers had accidentally shot Sheila under the chin and killed her?

Prior to the arrival of "Taff" Jones in the bedroom, Coroners officer, PC Wright entered the bedroom and viewed the body of Sheila on the bedroom floor with no rifle on her body. It is known that PC Wright did not enter the bedroom until about 9:25am, and so what this means is that once DCI "Taff" Jones arrived at the scene at a round 9:10am, he must have been engaged elsewhere at the scene for 15 to 20 minutes or so before he actually ended up in the bedroom carrying out the exercise described above at about 9:30am...

It was during this reconstruction when everyone was gathered around Sheila's body on the bedroom floor, that it was agreed that it could be suggested that Sheila had been shot twice by use of the same gun, through recoil because of the type of weapon which had actually fired the second fatal shot under the chin (by the police). When those present had finished discussing the pro's and con's of this, police proceeded to stage manage Sheila's body with the rifle (Y) in different positions, making sure that the safety catch on the rifle could not be seen during photographing...
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DCI Jones and other senior officers present at the scene gathered around the body of Sheila on the bedroom floor, pondering and discussing how Sheila had come to be shot a second time by use of the rifle that had been standing at the bedroom window, which had been picked up by a member of the training exercise involved in a reconstruction of the raid (which took place after 9am) and placed upon Sheila's body lengthways with the muzzle of its barrel in the region of the solitary wound (at that time) upon her throat. The rifle (Y) was resting flush on top of her nightdress as described (during the reconstruction) and the fingers of Sheila's right hand were positioned upon the trigger mechanism, and pressed against the trigger which discharged the second round under her chin, sending the fatal bullet (PV/20) thundering upwards through her chin, up into the void of her mouth, through the roof of her mouth until it became deposited in her brain. It was at this stage that police realized that Sheila had not been dead until the second shot had been discharged. By this stage of course, the police surgeon, Dr Craig, and all the ambulance crews had already left the scene. The member of the training exercise who took possession of the rifle from the bedroom window did not know that the rifle in question was still loaded with any ammunition because he mistakenly thought it was the gun which had been used to shoot the victims including Sheila herself and that another officer who was part of the original raid team had made it safe already. All of this took place before the arrival of DCI "Taff" Jones at the scene and before he actually entered the farmhouse, but other senior police officers such as DCI "George" Harris, were present...

When DCI "Taff" Jones went into the house and eventually ended up in the bedroom where Sheila had already been shot twice, a huge debate and discussion was already in progress between police officers who were present in the bedroom about how they were going to have to explain how Sheila came to be shot twice, when already she had been pronounced as dead (Dr Criag, at 8:44am) with a solitary wound to her throat? The rifle in question (Y) which had discharged the fatal bullet (PV/19) had been removed by the time DCI Jones arrived in the bedroom, and made safe by PI "Ivor" Montgomery who checked to see if the gun was still loaded with bullets, and that there was no further ammunition in the breach of the rifle? He also believed to have activated the safety switch on the weapon, before "Taff" Jones took possession of it and whilst others were gathered around Sheila's body on the floor, he relaid it atop her body with the muzzle of the rifle close in proximity to the two bullet entry wounds on her neck and by moving Sheila's right arm he was able to reconstruct what had taken place during the training exercise when one of the officers had accidentally shot Sheila under the chin and killed her?

Prior to the arrival of "Taff" Jones in the bedroom, Coroners officer, PC Wright entered the bedroom and viewed the body of Sheila on the bedroom floor with no rifle on her body. It is known that PC Wright did not enter the bedroom until about 9:25am, and so what this means is that once DCI "Taff" Jones arrived at the scene at a round 9:10am, he must have been engaged elsewhere at the scene for 15 to 20 minutes or so before he actually ended up in the bedroom carrying out the exercise described above at about 9:30am...

It was during this reconstruction when everyone was gathered around Sheila's body on the bedroom floor, that it was agreed that it could be suggested that Sheila had been shot twice by use of the same gun, through recoil because of the type of weapon which had actually fired the second fatal shot under the chin (by the police). When those present had finished discussing the pro's and con's of this, police proceeded to stage manage Sheila's body with the rifle (Y) in different positions, making sure that the safety catch on the rifle could not be seen during photographing...

This was achieved by the police who were responsible for stage managing the body with the rifle upon it, placing it on her body with the safety catch out of sight against her nightdress - by the time these crime scene phoptogroahs were taken by PC Bird (SOC), the rifle was already made safe (PI Montgomery) who had activated the safety catch to prevent the gun being accidentally fired again...






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whilst you're about it tell us why nobody in that house heard a report of a rifle..

When you say, nobody heard the report of the rifle discharging when Sheila was shot by the police under the chin, who are / were you referring to?
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When you say, nobody heard the report of the rifle discharging when Sheila was shot by the police under the chin, who are / were you referring to?

Some police officers present during the training exercise, obviously did, especially the police officer who actually caused Sheila to be shot under the chin...
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Another thing which  everyone should be aware of, is that when the rifle spotted by WPC Juila Jeapes at the bedroom window (about 7:15am) was seen it had an end cap screwed onto the external thread on the end of its barrel, so that a silencer could not have been screwed onto the rifle at any stage when any of the five victims had been shot (including Sheila). This was removed (yet retained as a discreet exhibit produced during the trial with no explanation for how it came to be in police possession) once senior officers at the scene decided to suggest Sheila had been shot twice by use of the same gun by a process of recoil. Police already knew the identity of the other weapon found downstairs which had been used to inflict the original non fatal shot (PV/20) which had a silencer attached to its barrel (the silencer which DS "Stan" Jones, seized that same morning, bearing the exhibit mark of SBJ/1). DCI "Taff" Jones, DCI "George" Harris, and others realized they had to remove the end cap from rifle "Y" because they could see bruising around the lower entry wound caused by a silencer having been pressed against the throat, and if it was going to be suggested that rifle "Y" had fired both shots, it would require the removal of the end cap from rifle "Y", otherwise there would be a glaring inconsistency regarding the size of the mark (bruising) from the face of the silencer, around the lower entry wound site, as compared to the dimensions of the end cap of rifle "Y"...




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By the time DCI "Taff" Jones and other senior officers present at the scene had agreed to proceed upon the basis that Sheila could have shot herself twice by use of the same rifle (Y), by a reliance upon recoil, and PC Bird had taken the first photographs of Sheila, on the bed, and on the bedroom floor, the condition and state of blood upon Sheila's face, and throat had deteriorated badly:-



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Blood spots photographed on the bedroom carpet next to Sheila's body were identified as blood originating from June Bamber (AK 2-1) as she walked around the room from one side of the bed to the other, crossing the bedroom window, and eventually with her body ending up by the bedroom door...





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According to DI "Ron" Cook, he testified that he only moved Sheila's right hand from the gun to allow PC Bird to photograph the bloodied fingermarks on the front lower part of her nightdress, but this can now be shown to be a complete lie...

Rifle was also moved...
Nightdress was adjusted...
Blankets on bed removed...


"Ron" Cook, is therefore, a lying crook...



« Last Edit: July 30, 2012, 09:15:AM by mike tesko »
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