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Re: THE FEAST OF THE TRANSFIGURATION celebrated on 6th August!
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2012, 09:10:PM »
Roch, in your opinion, do you think Sheila was the first mother to kill her children?
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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2012, 09:12:PM »
Maybe she saw the Resurrection displayed on the wall of the Greek Monestery, but given that June had a grasp of the Bible, wouldn't you have thought she would have realized that before resurrection there is death and if Sheila was already aggitated, she would surely not have encouraged that line of thinking.
Are we just assuming Sheila didn't have knowledge of the bible, she was certainly obsessed with her own interpretations and may very well have been extremely familiar with it.

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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2012, 09:13:PM »
Dear Roch, you are too kind, but the quote was not mine!!!.

EEK! Sorry Caroline  :-[

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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2012, 09:18:PM »
Roch, in your opinion, do you think Sheila was the first mother to kill her children?

No Andi.  It's probably gone on since the dawn of time.  But I expect it was extremely rare around the time this happened and the decades leading up to it.  I don't ever remember tragic stories of mother's killing their children in the press around that time.  Fast forward to now... and it seems to be every other month, either a father or a mother committing murder of their children. 

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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2012, 09:24:PM »
No Andi.  It's probably gone on since the dawn of time.  But I expect it was extremely rare around the time this happened and the decades leading up to it.  I don't ever remember tragic stories of mother's killing their children in the press around that time.  Fast forward to now... and it seems to be every other month, either a father or a mother committing murder of their children.

Oh Roch, I'm convinced that little has changed other than jounalistic manners. There was a time when they respected a family's grief and didn't hide in bushes near to their house or trick neighbours into making comments that ended up as something quite other than what they had said.

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« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2012, 09:27:PM »
EEK! Sorry Caroline  :-[

No worries  :D

On a similar note - Melanie Ruddell killed her child also in the thought that he would return!

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« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2012, 09:28:PM »
Oh Roch, I'm convinced that little has changed other than jounalistic manners. There was a time when they respected a family's grief and didn't hide in bushes near to their house or trick neighbours into making comments that ended up as something quite other than what they had said.
There's nothing new about women or men having mental illness and killing themselves and their children while 'the balance of their minds was disturbed'.  The difference as you say April is the way journalists and the tabloid press report it.

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« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2012, 11:15:PM »
To what ive read about JB i  see nothing, no intrest in religion at all a certain yawning  intrest like been sat next to gordon brown on a long train ride with no spare seats .

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« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2012, 11:19:PM »
To what ive read about JB i  see nothing, no intrest in religion at all a certain yawning  intrest like been sat next to gordon brown on a long train ride with no spare seats .
Nicely put Mertol  ;D Im sure Jeremy didnt have the faintest idea about the transfiguration and its connection to the 6th of August but its interesting that Sheila very well may have.

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« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2012, 11:24:PM »
To what ive read about JB i  see nothing, no intrest in religion at all a certain yawning  intrest like been sat next to gordon brown on a long train ride with no spare seats .

Me either! Doesn't seem to be the religious type! As for sitting next to Gordon Brown on a train - I hear the coach is a good way to travel these days :)

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« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2012, 11:31:PM »
Me either! Doesn't seem to be the religious type! As for sitting next to Gordon Brown on a train - I hear the coach is a good way to travel these days :)
Coach is worse folks non stop talking morons with ipads and being stuck with a passenger with heavy BO stick to my tiny car thanks.

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« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2012, 12:06:AM »
Nicely put Mertol  ;D Im sure Jeremy didnt have the faintest idea about the transfiguration and its connection to the 6th of August but its interesting that Sheila very well may have.

It seems more than a coincidence that the bible would be open at that time on that page. And with the significance of the number 3 it might be something worth looking into. 

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« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2012, 08:06:AM »
We know that the Bible had been bled upon and then closed and then opened at this page, so while June may have shown it to Sheila in the beginning, I doubt that June was alive to re-open it.

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« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2012, 08:47:AM »
Morning Caroline R  Thanks so much for the thread.  I have always thought the murders at WHF had religious connotations and that the three Sheila wrote 5 times was very significant.  Also the three marks on Ralph's back seem to fit this theory.  I have done so much research on the significance of the 3 now you have it found for me.  I wonder what the other numbers mean.

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« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2012, 08:50:AM »
We know that the Bible had been bled upon and then closed and then opened at this page, so while June may have shown it to Sheila in the beginning, I doubt that June was alive to re-open it.
This is what makes me think that Ann Eaton's witness statement was correct where she pointed out that she was informed that both June and Sheila were on the bed side by side, the gun between them (I think? ) and the Bible on Sheila's chest.