The key(s) to unlocking Jeremy's cell door

[Jane]

It is quite possible that I could crawl along our street sewage pipe. Bit it doesn't mean I'd do it. If court cases were built upon what is possible and not what actually happened then heaven help us.....Wait a minute..... It was.

Perzackerly!!! But how is it that the BGB can use the "they didn't need to prove it" thing but insist that we have to?

[grahameb]

Perzackerly!!! But how is it that the BGB can use the "they didn't need to prove it" thing but insist that we have to?

April, all of the prosecution theories should have been treated as it most certainly was. Nothing but a tissue of lies.

[Bridget]

Perzackerly!!! But how is it that the BGB can use the "they didn't need to prove it" thing but insist that we have to?

It was possible for Jeremy to enter and leave through the windows. It was impossible for police to obtain details of the calls made. Simple really.

[mike tesko]

It was possible for Jeremy to enter and leave through the windows. It was impossible for police to obtain details of the calls made. Simple really.

This is / was not true, police were easily able to obtain the details of the calls made, as evidenced by the metered call log examples I have provided already. Not only were the police able to identify when calls had been made from the scene (whf) and at which time of day these calls had been made, and how long each call lasted, they were also able to identify and pinpoint the person called from the scene, again as evidenced by the fact that accompanying the detailed metered call logs from 19th March 1985, is / are details of calls made to Northampton hospital where Sheila was detained in connection with her mental illness? As far as I know, Northampton hospital was not considered to be an International call, was it?

[Bridget]

This is / was not true, police were easily able to obtain the details of the calls made, as evidenced by the metered call log examples I have provided already. Not only were the police able to identify when calls had been made from the scene (whf) and at which time of day these calls had been made, and how long each call lasted, they were also able to identify and pinpoint the person called from the scene, again as evidenced by the fact that accompanying the detailed metered call logs from 19th March 1985, is / are details of calls made to Northampton hospital where Sheila was detained in connection with her mental illness? As far as I know, Northampton hospital was not considered to be an International call, was it?

Show me a log that details a call to anything other than a hospital and you'll have my attention.

[Jane]

It was possible for Jeremy to enter and leave through the windows. It was impossible for police to obtain details of the calls made. Simple really.

Along those lines numerous innocent people will have been found guilty merely because something which doesn't need to be proved, is said to be possible. Justice!!!!!?

[tonyb]

Show me a log that details a call to anything other than a hospital and you'll have my attention.

Mike has stated he has copies of the itemissed bills for the previous two months.he has stated this on many,nany occasions. Let's stop all the bickering and let mike show them.that will prove they could and did don't you think?

[Bridget]

Mike has stated he has copies of the itemissed bills for the previous two months.he has stated this on many,nany occasions. Let's stop all the bickering and let mike show them.that will prove they could and did don't you think?

I agree.

[mike tesko]

Show me a log that details a call to anything other than a hospital and you'll have my attention.

So, why doesn't a call to the hospital count in your book, as anything other than a true record of a call made from whf which was not an International call?

[Roch]

So, why doesn't a call to the hospital count in your book, as anything other than a true record of a call made from whf which was not an International call?

Was the hospital number a pay phone?  Like what the patients would have used?

[Bridget]

So, why doesn't a call to the hospital count in your book, as anything other than a true record of a call made from whf which was not an International call?

I'm suggesting (based on Grahame's earlier comment) that the numbers called were pay phones. I'm happy to accept the fact that they could log calls to those.

[mike tesko]

So, why doesn't a call to the hospital count in your book, as anything other than a true record of a call made from whf which was not an International call?

Records have already been provided to show that calls were made to two different telephone numbers at Northampton Hospital (Northampton 36691, and Northampton 37491). There was another telephone number recorded as Clackton 812128 - which was traced as belonging to an address, HOLLAND MILL LTD, THE MILL, Gt' HOLLAND, FRINTON ON SEA, ESSEX...

[Bridget]

Records have already been provided to show that calls were made to two different telephone numbers at Northampton Hospital (Northampton 36691, and Northampton 37491). There was another telephone number recorded as Clackton 812128 - which was traced as belonging to an address, HOLLAND MILL LTD, THE MILL, Gt' HOLLAND, FRINTON ON SEA, ESSEX...

In all likelihood another payphone. All sorts of businesses had them in the 1980's for customer and staff private use.

[jim ignatowski]

Mike, all you have to do is to post the logs for the night in question - take it from me, they are not subject to PII.
I just don't understand why you won't post the documents!!

[mike tesko]

In all likelihood another payphone. All sorts of businesses had them in the 1980's for customer and staff private use.

No, it doesn't say it was a payphone, it gives an address, unlike the others...

In any event there were many other logged calls in the metered call logs on other dates, which were of different duration and which were made at different times of the day, which enabled the police to trace calls which had been made from whf between 6pm on Tuesday, 6th August 1985, and 8am, Wednesday, 7th August 1985. It was possible for the police to trace certain calls which are detailed in these metered call logs, because some were identified easily. For example, the call made by June Bamber to her sister Pamela at 10pm on evening of Tuesday, 6th August 1985. Another call identified which was made from the scene to the police at 3:26am, followed by the activation of the attack alarm at about 3:33am. Somewhere sandwiched in between the call made by June to her sister Pamela, and the call made to the police from the scene at 3:26am, was another much shorter call which satisfied the police that a call had been made to Jeremy's cottage from whf that night...