Body of Ralph Bamber was stage managed before police took photographs...

[Steve_uk]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1641.0.html

The pic of June is here, no way was she stood up when she was shot between the eyes.

If you are of a squeamish disposition I suggest that you do not click on the above link.

[andrea]

Yes its quite graphic, steve. I should have warned of that.

[Patti]

What I am trying to say is this. If June was running toward the door she would have either been shot in the back, if her killer was in the bedroom and she would have fell forward.

Or, if she was heading for the door and the killer shot her from the front, she would have fell backwards.

It is obvious her killer was facing her for she fell backwards towards the door...this means she was facing her killer at the left hand side of the bed...and not as suggested that she was heading out of the door...

[andrea]

I only suggested that she waas on the floor when she was shot, she doesnt appear to have been stood up. The blood stain is low down on the door.

[Buddy]

The second bullet to enter Sheila was a contact injury. I just don't see how this could have occurred with Sheila already having one bullet wound. There was also a reward of £1million offered by Jeremy Bamber's defence team for information proving his innocence and after 27 years since the incident one would think this would be claimed.

I think I may have mentioned this before, but I will say it anyway. We are all aware that the rifle was moved about Sheila's body. Her hands are all wrong for a suicide. Now just imagine if you will that the police entered the bedroom and attempted to take the rifle from Sheila and there was an accidental discharge which was the second shot.
Why was there no fingerprints on the rifle, except SC, and JB? IMO the cops wiped the rifle to get rid of their prints when they tried to sieze the weapon and it accidently went off killing Sheila. How come there were no other fingerprints when we know the police moved the rifle around?

[Patti]

I only suggested that she waas on the floor when she was shot, she doesnt appear to have been stood up. The blood stain is low down on the door.

Yes, the blood on the door is from her shoulder, which suggests that she fell towards the door and left a blood transfer on it....What I am saying is that she wasn't heading for the door, she was heading in the direction of her killer, which was at the left hand side of the bed, or the bottom of the bed...

If you look at her contact wound on her head, there is no bleed...or pool of blood from that injury, which tells you that was not the position she received her shot. Blood flies for yards from a head wound...and there is not a great deal of spatter directly infront of her.....

[jim ignatowski]

But surely, if the police "wiped" the rifle, it wouldn't, upon examination, have contained any person's fingerprints?
How on earth do you selectively wipe away fingerprints from any article?

[andrea]

There is also no blood running down her face, which suggests she wasnt stoodup, i believe she was on the floor either sat or laying down when she received the fatal shot between the eyes. We will have to agree to dosagree on that .

[andrea]

But surely, if the police "wiped" the rifle, it wouldn't, upon examination, have contained any person's fingerprints?
How on earth do you selectively wipe away fingerprints from any article?

Good pont, Jim.

[Patti]

There is also no blood running down her face, which suggests she wasnt stoodup, i believe she was on the floor either sat or laying down when she received the fatal shot between the eyes. We will have to agree to dosagree on that .

Andrea there is not blood at all...what does that suggest to you...none running down her face and none running where she lay on the floor...think about it...when does one stop bleeding?

[Steve_uk]

I think I may have mentioned this before, but I will say it anyway. We are all aware that the rifle was moved about Sheila's body. Her hands are all wrong for a suicide. Now just imagine if you will that the police entered the bedroom and attempted to take the rifle from Sheila and there was an accidental discharge which was the second shot.
Why was there no fingerprints on the rifle, except SC, and JB? IMO the cops wiped the rifle to get rid of their prints when they tried to sieze the weapon and it accidently went off killing Sheila. How come there were no other fingerprints when we know the police moved the rifle around?

Wouldn't the Police under those circumstances just admit that Sheila had shot herself as they approached her?

[andrea]

Andrea there is not blood at all...what does that suggest to you...none running down her face and none running where she lay on the floor...think about it...when does one stop bleeding?

There is none down her face , That is plain. but you cant say for sure that there is none running down the side of her face/head, the picture quality is too poor. She would have bled from that wound and has, the picture quality is just too poor to show it.

Im sticking with she was on the floor when shot between the eyes by jb. 

[Ben]

Wouldn't the Police under those circumstances just admit that Sheila had shot herself as they approached her?

of course they would if true and why would every Police officer involved (and there was many) risk losing their job and freedom by perverting the course of justice, when there was no need to if just a suicide!!

[maggie]

Andrea there is not blood at all...what does that suggest to you...none running down her face and none running where she lay on the floor...think about it...when does one stop bleeding?

Patti one stops bleeding when one is dead xx

[Ben]

Patti one stops bleeding when one is dead xx

i think you find they don't...