Body of Ralph Bamber was stage managed before police took photographs...

[andrea]

What photograph are you looking at?

[mike tesko]

He then goes to Sheila,who as Pamela Boutflour said at 10pm the previous evening sounded like a zombie,and who would go to her death meekly not knowing anything about it.

She would not be acting like a zombie - she had not been taking her medication (anafranil), and was in an agitated mood when she was seen earlier in the day by an official who visited whf to take a reading from the electric meter. On that occasion, June Bamber told the official that Sheila had not been taking her medication and that she was not well...

[Patti]

What photograph are you looking at?

The one of June, which I can't post. It is the full one that is graphic...

[andrea]

Its not in the case related pictures, what thread is it on? i know which one you mean.

[mike tesko]

She would not be acting like a zombie - she had not been taking her medication (anafranil), and was in an agitated mood when she was seen earlier in the day by an official who visited whf to take a reading from the electric meter. On that occasion, June Bamber told the official that Sheila had not been taking her medication and that she was not well...

So concerned was June about the state Sheila had got herself into that day, that June even cancelled her regular Tuesday evening bible class, because she feared for the safety of her grandchildren...

June later told her sister Pamela that Sheila had been behaving oddly all day (6rth August 1985)...

[Buddy]

No way is her killer stood above her and, shoots her where she falls near the door. Look at the blood spatter there is none at the door way. She was shot stood up, all the spatter went left of the bottom of the bed...there is no bleeding from that wound where her body lays....June has a wound to he shoulder and this marks the door as she fell backwards...

The problem here is we know the police treated the scene as an exercise [to blood] some 60 odd officers, so we will never know the position of the bodies prior to the photo's being taken. We are aware that the rifle was moved about Sheila's body, so maybe June, and Sheila were on the bed, and carted about during the police exercise.

[jim ignatowski]

But what I don't understand is why would the Police stage manage the scene? I suppose the answer is that the Police (accidentally or otherwise) shot Sheila???

[Patti]

I don't have the picture of June,nor Anne Eaton's statement if anybody has the link? At what point was the panic alarm activated and is there any official record of it?

Steve AE's statement is in the archives, you need to read page 30 dated 1991.  The full picture of June is not in the archives...Mike did post it on a thread somewhere...Yes There is a record regarding the alarm...not sure where it is. I have seen it, but it was a while ago. 

[mike tesko]

But what I don't understand is why would the Police stage manage the scene? I suppose the answer is that the Police (accidentally or otherwise) shot Sheila???

That is correct - accidentally or otherwise...

[Patti]

Its not in the case related pictures, what thread is it on? i know which one you mean.

I have no idea which thread it is on....sorry!

[Patti]

The problem here is we know the police treated the scene as an exercise [to blood] some 60 odd officers, so we will never know the position of the bodies prior to the photo's being taken. We are aware that the rifle was moved about Sheila's body, so maybe June, and Sheila were on the bed, and carted about during the police exercise.

Hi Buddy

What time was this exercise done, do you know? Because if Sheila was shifted about, this could mean that any reside on her hands had dropped off....and if any copper had touched her hand during the movement of it...PC Adams says the bible was 14 to 16 inches away at the level of her wrist...but in the pics it was near her shoulder...He also says her head had was not in the same position either...

[Steve_uk]

But what I don't understand is why would the Police stage manage the scene? I suppose the answer is that the Police (accidentally or otherwise) shot Sheila???

The second bullet to enter Sheila was a contact injury. I just don't see how this could have occurred with Sheila already having one bullet wound. There was also a reward of £1million offered by Jeremy Bamber's defence team for information proving his innocence and after 27 years since the incident one would think this would be claimed.

[jim ignatowski]

Where is the EVIDENCE that some form of training exercise (involving upwards of 60 officers) took place at whf?

[andrea]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1641.0.html

The pic of June is here, no way was she stood up when she was shot between the eyes.

[Patti]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1641.0.html

The pic of June is here, no way was she stood up when she was shot between the eyes.

And no way was she laid down either when that shot was delivered....look at it closely. When you get an head injury the blood from the head spurts out profousley, she could have been sat up, but she did not receive that shot laid down...sorry...of the spatter would be directly in front of her...and it isn't...